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[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

These things always go down to the final hour, I'm still holding out hope for a last minute deal to avoid a lockout.

Just because I am stupid and really have not being following this very closely, when exactly is the final hour?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Just because I am stupid and really have not being following this very closely, when exactly is the final hour?

March 4 at 12:01am

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

March 4 at 12:01am

ok so pretty much right around the corner.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

ok so pretty much right around the corner.

3 weeks today

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

These things always go down to the final hour, I'm still holding out hope for a last minute deal to avoid a lockout.

You are correct, this is how almost all negotiations go. There will be a lot of back & forth but in the end a deal will get done in time for the season to start on time.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

These things always go down to the final hour, I'm still holding out hope for a last minute deal to avoid a lockout.

Ideally I want that too, as I'm sure most of us do. But I would rather sacrifice some of the season to get a deal that's good for both. 2006 that didn't happen & that's why we're at this juncture.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

These things always go down to the final hour, I'm still holding out hope for a last minute deal to avoid a lockout.

NFL, union meet for 2-hour bargaining session - MyNorthwest.com

[mredskins]

Honestly 16 weeks plus playoffs is enough for me. I am pretty much NFL burned out by this time of the year. By week 14 or so it starts feeling like your Sunday afternoon part time job. Maybe I am just at a stage in life where I have better things to do then waste 4 hours on a Sunday afternoon watching football, doesn't mean I am not a fan just means I have different priorities now.

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Honestly 16 weeks plus playoffs is enough for me. I am pretty much NFL burned out by this time of the year. By week 14 or so it starts feeling like your Sunday afternoon part time job. Maybe I am just at a stage in life where I have better things to do then waste 4 hours on a Sunday afternoon watching football, doesn't mean I am not a fan just means I have different priorities now.

I agree. Towards the end of the season it does start to feel like a job a little. However how much of this is because we rarely have anything to celebrate towards the end of the year other than a good draft pick? Your statement of week 14 sounds just about right for when the Skins are pretty much out of the playoffs.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Jontrem

I agree. Towards the end of the season it does start to feel like a job a little. However how much of this is because we rarely have anything to celebrate towards the end of the year other than a good draft pick? Your statement of week 14 sounds just about right for when the Skins are pretty much out of the playoffs.

I am sure the Redskin's lack of success in the past century has fueled this feeling of "work" as well for me.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I am sure the Redskin's lack of success in the past century has fueled this feeling of "work" as well for me.

You guys are like me. I am 30 year Redskins fan, and most Decembers, it is like work watching this team. Geez!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Honestly 16 weeks plus playoffs is enough for me. I am pretty much NFL burned out by this time of the year. By week 14 or so it starts feeling like your Sunday afternoon part time job. Maybe I am just at a stage in life where I have better things to do then waste 4 hours on a Sunday afternoon watching football, doesn't mean I am not a fan just means I have different priorities now.

I don't feel that way at all. The day the season ends is one of the worst days of the year for me. I have other things to do, too, and "different priorities." But I also recognize that every April I wish I could watch football, yet I can't, so I feel gratitude even towards the end of the season in December.

That said, I am opposed to 18 games. It just puts off the inevitable for two weeks in terms of the end of the season. It also is bad for the players.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I don't feel that way at all. The day the season ends is one of the worst days of the year for me. I have other things to do, too, and "different priorities." But I also recognize that every April I wish I could watch football, yet I can't, so I feel gratitude even towards the end of the season in December.

That said, I am opposed to 18 games. It just puts off the inevitable for two weeks in terms of the end of the season. It also is bad for the players.

I hear ya. Sounds kinda corny but I feel kinda empty once the season ends and all of a sudden my Sundays are wide open. On one hand it's nice to have all that free time again, but for the first few Sundays I feel a bit lost. Especially coming off the playoffs - which is always the best football of the year regardless of whether the Skins are in or not.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Honestly 16 weeks plus playoffs is enough for me. I am pretty much NFL burned out by this time of the year. By week 14 or so it starts feeling like your Sunday afternoon part time job. Maybe I am just at a stage in life where I have better things to do then waste 4 hours on a Sunday afternoon watching football, doesn't mean I am not a fan just means I have different priorities now.

This is exactly right. The difference between NFL and the other two sports leagues (NBA and MLB) is the NFL accidently stumbled upon the less is more reality. It is dumb luck that the NFL leaves their fans wanting more. The NBA and MLB are a joke and losing tons of money. Empty seats is a real problem for most but not all NBA and MLB teams. Nobody cares about game 1 in a 80 or 100+ game season.
The NFL owners are greedy and dumb. Why do they mess with a good thing?
I am starting to not like the NFL commissioner either, because it seems increasing the season is his baby. Boooooo

[Terpfan76]

I think the 18 game season is being used as a bargaining chip for both a more advantageous money split for the owners and a rookie salary cap. The rookie wage scale would go a long way into reining in spending for rookies allowing more money to be spent on vets.

Personally, I'm anti 18 game season. There's no need for it. Hell, keep your 4 preseason games but don't force them on season ticket holders and charge a much reduced rate for them. Hell, they could easily cut it back to 3 games and be fine. Just get the deal done. You're at risk of really pissing off the people that actually do pay your checks, the fans.