Obama Care

[firstdown]

Why force people to buy health ins. Why not just allow health providers the right to refuse service if someone does not have coverage or money to pay their bill.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Why force people to buy health ins. Why not just allow health providers the right to refuse service if someone does not have coverage or money to pay their bill.

so you would like the poor to not be able to get treatments? i guess all you insurance guys stick together. i say we make car insurance optional. you down with that?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

so you would like the poor to not be able to get treatments? i guess all you insurance guys stick together. i say we make car insurance optional. you down with that?

When I say give health providers the right to refuse services I have assumed that there is something in place for the poor. Then the people who choose not to buy coverage either have to show they can pay for services or they are out of luck.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by firstdown

When I say give health providers the right to refuse services I have assumed that there is something in place for the poor. Then the people who choose not to buy coverage either have to show they can pay for services or they are out of luck.

IMO this bill is to provide an alternative more affordable health care option for a segment of US citizens who fall btw the crack of not being poor enough to qualify for free health care (medicaid, SS) but dont make enough money to pay the expensive priv health care options.

The poor and lazy who live off welfare or SS get medicaid free of charge.

If you make over 40k you can probably afford 200-300 a month in priv health care or your employment offers a pay-in program.

If you make 20-30k a year, you probably dont have health ins.

Im sorry, but priv health ins groups prices are out of control, they know it and the gov't knows it.

$165 a month to have a 10k deductible is rediculus. I have to incur and pay 10k in medical expenses in a year before my health ins will kick in a penny is a joke.

There is something in place for the poor who sit around and collect gov't checks. The problem is there isnt anything in place for the poor who actually work for a living. Your better off quiting your day job and living off the gov't w/ free health care, food stamps and section 8 vs working, making 9.50 an hour and hoping you dont suffer an accidental injury that would leave a 20k hospital debt hanging over you.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

IMO this bill is to provide an alternative more affordable health care option for a segment of US citizens who fall btw the crack of not being poor enough to qualify for free health care (medicaid, SS) but dont make enough money to pay the expensive priv health care options.

The poor and lazy who live off welfare or SS get medicaid free of charge.

If you make over 40k you can probably afford 200-300 a month in priv health care or your employment offers a pay-in program.

If you make 20-30k a year, you probably dont have health ins.

Im sorry, but priv health ins groups prices are out of control, they know it and the gov't knows it.

$165 a month to have a 10k deductible is rediculus. I have to incur and pay 10k in medical expenses in a year before my health ins will kick in a penny is a joke.

There is something in place for the poor who sit around and collect gov't checks. The problem is there isnt anything in place for the poor who actually work for a living. Your better off quiting your day job and living off the gov't w/ free health care, food stamps and section 8 vs working, making 9.50 an hour and hoping you don't suffer an accidental injury that would leave a 20k hospital debt hanging over you.

Sorry this bill is the first step for the government to take over health care and lead us to a one payer system. Obama has said so himself many times but he tries to ignore his past statements. By the way if you live in the US and are over like 25 and cannot make more then 9.50 an hour then your doing something wrong or need to move. I'm talking normal times not now so much. My buddy with a high school degree has lost 3 jobs in the past 3 years and all but one paid over $20 per hour. He really does not have any marketable skills either. You also need to shop your ins.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Why force people to buy health ins. Why not just allow health providers the right to refuse service if someone does not have coverage or money to pay their bill.

Why not force people to buy guns too:

South Dakota Lawmakers Propose Mandating Gun Ownership -- to Make Point About Health Law - FoxNews.com

oh wait:

Gun Ownership Mandatory In Kennesaw, Georgia --- Crime Rate Plummets