Snyder Camp Upset!!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I really don't see any problem with Washington changing the name back to the Bullets. A bullet itself isn't going to cause death and destruction, it's the one pulling the trigger. Let's also remember that Lions, Tigers, and Bears (OH MY) can also cause death and destruction.....Jaguars as well! So, that can't, or at least shouldn't be a reason to change the name of a team.

In regards to the Redskins, just as what SmootSmack had posted, is pretty much the way I feel. The word is not used in a disparaging manner in today's society. Words change meanings. I believe just as some regular words turn into disparaging words throughout the years, I think the exact opposite can easily happen as well.

As being a fan, I don't believe I could ever get used to any other moniker except for one that would describe an American Indian. "The Washington Warriors"....I could probably live with that, or even the Washington Braves, but I would much rather keep it the Washington Redskins.

Sorry Skinsguy, my level of disgust for the team name change to Wizards must have been a little to thickly veiled? I am NOT a proponent for bending to such foolishly motivated PR moves.
I agree with you.......

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Sorry Skinsguy, my level of disgust for the team name change to Wizards must have been a little to thickly veiled? I am NOT a proponent for bending to such foolishly motivated PR moves.
I agree with you.......

I wasn't quite sure which way you were going with it.

I'm surprised the same PC crowd wouldn't say that the terms "wizard" would be promoting black magic...lol!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I wasn't quite sure which way you were going with it.

I'm surprised the same PC crowd wouldn't say that the terms "wizard" would be promoting black magic...lol!

A Harry Potter generation?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Washington...........wizards...sick
AND I heard the other day, they are thinking of changing it back to Bullets? I guess it is no longer offensive to have an object of death and destruction representing your team?
PC.......go figure.........

.......it's becuase handguns are legal in DC again.:headbange

[MTK]

Despite the struggles under Snyder the Redskins are one of the NFL's most storied franchises. Changing the identity of the team would be a bad idea if it's just for a PR move.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Despite the struggles under Snyder the Redskins are one of the NFL's most storied franchises. Changing the identity of the team would be a bad idea if it's just for a PR move.

Thats the thing, the organization will tell everyone its about taking the organization in a new direction in order to look like they didnt cave into the PC crowd. Even if they do change the name it not like people arent going to know who they are or where to see them play.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Despite the struggles under Snyder the Redskins are one of the NFL's most storied franchises. Changing the identity of the team would be a bad idea if it's just for a PR move.

You mean like the ..."Baltimore Colts" or the Cleveland uhh Baltimore Ravens.

[Longtimefan]

[QUOTE/

a. Used as a disparaging term for a poor white person of the rural, especially southeast United States.
b. Used as a disparaging term for a white person. [UNQUOTE/

The term /cracker, straight from the vocabulary of one Brandon Lloyd. Disparaging is to say distasteful, not likable/unwanted. It's been argued that "Redskin" ranks in the same category as many of our other well known slangs utilized to characterize ethnicity. Do we really want our sports franchises named some of those names?

[CRedskinsRule]

The point is that cracker is used in everyday speech, and that contextually, it is not offensive.

The same is true with Redskins, when used in media, or most normal daily speech the context does not lead to the disparaging notion that had existed one time long ago, but instead recalls tradition, honor, and overspending on lazy free agents.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The point is that cracker is used in everyday speech, and that contextually, it is not offensive.

The same is true with Redskins, when used in media, or most normal daily speech the context does not lead to the disparaging notion that had existed one time long ago, but instead recalls tradition, honor, and overspending on lazy free agents.

Exactly.

[skinsfan69]

I wonder if Snyder will get sick of all the heat he takes and sell the team.

[diehardskin2982]

The media can come off as a gang- when you go against one, you go against them all. Therefore all the local media has taken this as a battle in the war to bring Snyder down. When you read or listen to the radio everything concerning the lawsuit is spinned negative on snyder to sway society's perspective that this is a frivaless lawsuit.

I really wonder what will happen if Snyder wins in court? It will set a prescident, no more yellow journalism, what a thought!

[Hog1]

I like to do what seems reasonable and makes sense. I don't always get there, but that is the goal.
SO, I do my own survey among my email list (about 50), my family, mom, etc.
I ask, "What does the term Redskin make you think of" (some old, some young)? Well I got some smartass shit...like bad football, chaos, etc(to be expected).
Not one person associated the term Redskin with a derogatory characterization of the American Indian. I personally have never, in my lifetime heard anyone use that term other than for the Wash Redskins. EXCEPT in a couple of Very old....crappy...Hollywood Cowboy movies.

[mlmpetert]

wow, not sure how this thread turned this way..... but ill add to it:


90% of Native Americans are cool with the Washington Redskins name:
Annenberg Public Policy Center



Can we go back to the Danny Boy bashing?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I like to do what seems reasonable and makes sense. I don't always get there, but that is the goal.
SO, I do my own survey among my email list (about 50), my family, mom, etc.
I ask, "What does the term Redskin make you think of" (some old, some young)? Well I got some smartass shit...like bad football, chaos, etc(to be expected).
Not one person associated the term Redskin with a derogatory characterization of the American Indian. I personally have never, in my lifetime heard anyone use that term other than for the Wash Redskins. EXCEPT in a couple of Very old....crappy...Hollywood Cowboy movies.

and J.M. Barrie's Neverland