Snyder Camp Upset!!

[Defensewins]

Even if you took the win loss record and poor FO management out of the equation, my whole opinion of Dan Snyder fell in the toilet when he tried sue season ticket holders who fell into hard times due to the recession and defaulted on their season ticket obligations. Why squeeze people that have fallen on hard times?
Plus those season ticket holders give up their rights to the seats and Dan sells the seats to someone else. No harm no foul. It seemed really greedy and money hungry to sue them. That was a really poor business decision and just dumb.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Even if you took the win loss record and poor FO management out of the equation, my whole opinion of Dan Snyder fell in the toilet when he tried sue season ticket holders who fell into hard times due to the recession and defaulted on their season ticket obligations. Why squeeze people that have fallen on hard times?
Plus those season ticket holders give up their rights to the seats and Dan sells the seats to someone else. No harm no foul. It seemed really greedy and money hungry to sue them. That was a really poor business decision and just dumb.

Well in all fairness to Napoleon that story was kind of blown up by the media. The women that was losing her home was going to lose it anyway, regardless of whether or not they Redskins sued her.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well in all fairness to Napoleon that story was kind of blown up by the media. The women that was losing her home was going to lose it anyway, regardless of whether or not they Redskins sued her.

Dont let the facts get in the way.

As for Leonsis, much different thing to own the Caps, Wizards, and Mystics vs Redskins, he's got issues with the Washington Post as well, and has said he will be less fan friendly and accesible moving forward bc too many fans are basically petty assholes.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Dont let the facts get in the way.

As for Leonsis, much different thing to own the Caps, Wizards, and Mystics vs Redskins, he's got issues with the Washington Post as well, and has said he will be less fan friendly and accesible moving forward bc too many fans are basically petty assholes.

His approach is much different than any owner I've ever known in any sport. I wonder how long he'll be willing to continue directly indulging his critics.

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[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Dont let the facts get in the way.

As for Leonsis, much different thing to own the Caps, Wizards, and Mystics vs Redskins, he's got issues with the Washington Post as well, and has said he will be less fan friendly and accesible moving forward bc too many fans are basically petty assholes.

Not that much different. The guy has something Snyder doesn't. People skills. Snyder comes across as a 100% thin skinned dick to his customers. For someone that made a boat load of $ in marketing, you'd think he'd have better people skills instead of always hiding behind people. Now he's got lawyers trying to get some nobody at the freakin City Paper fired? I'd maybe understand if it was The Post or ESPN, or something like that. But the City Paper?? He looks like a baby crying without it's milk bottle.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not that much different. The guy has something Snyder doesn't. People skills. Snyder comes across as a 100% thin skinned dick to his customers. For someone that made a boat load of $ in marketing, you'd think he'd have better people skills instead of always hiding behind people. Now he's got lawyers trying to get some nobody at the freakin City Paper fired? I'd maybe understand if it was The Post or ESPN, or something like that. But the City Paper?? He looks like a baby crying without it's milk bottle.

When Abe Pollin employed Wes Unseld year after year after year as his head coach/general manager and the team repeatedly failed to make the playoffs and had a piss poor scouting dept and no presence in Europe, and Unseld even said I probably don't deserve this job; everyone was all "wow, Pollin is such a loyal guy good for him" Snyder employs Cerrato and it's all "racquetball butt buddies" Why? Because people just dont care in DC as much about the Wizards as they do the Redskins. I have Wizards season tix, I have been to hundreds more Wizards games than any other team. I don't carevabout them half as much as I do the Skins.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When Abe Pollin employed Wes Unseld year after year after year as his head coach/general manager and the team repeatedly failed to make the playoffs and had a piss poor scouting dept and no presence in Europe, and Unseld even said I probably don't deserve this job; everyone was all "wow, Pollin is such a loyal guy good for him" Snyder employs Cerrato and it's all "racquetball butt buddies" Why? Because people just dont care in DC as much about the Wizards as they do the Redskins. I have Wizards season tix, I have been to hundreds more Wizards games than any other team. I don't carevabout them half as much as I do the Skins.

Partially yes. Also first impressions are paramount. We all know that from our workplace to our personal relationships. Snyder's actions and record the first few seasons have left a horrible taste in all of the fans' mouths. That view may not every change for some, but the only way to try to turn things around is hard work, stronger attempts to change and distancing yourself from past actions. I don't think this whole "effort" from the Skins camp is helping.

Wouldn't you agree?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When Abe Pollin employed Wes Unseld year after year after year as his head coach/general manager and the team repeatedly failed to make the playoffs and had a piss poor scouting dept and no presence in Europe, and Unseld even said I probably don't deserve this job; everyone was all "wow, Pollin is such a loyal guy good for him" Snyder employs Cerrato and it's all "racquetball butt buddies" Why? Because people just dont care in DC as much about the Wizards as they do the Redskins. I have Wizards season tix, I have been to hundreds more Wizards games than any other team. I don't carevabout them half as much as I do the Skins.

Two TOTALLY different situations. Unseld helped bring a championship and winning basketball to this city. He was a GREAT NBA center at 6'7. There was a respect factor there and that's why Polin got somewhat of a pass. Polin considered Unseld like family, just like Snyder thinks of Joe Gibbs. Cerrato was hated from the start, when he was hiding out in a Dulles airport hotel room trying to get in Redskin Park while John Cooke and Casserly were still there. Plus his not wanting veterans around. I could go on and on about why people hate Vinny. What did he do for anyone to like him? People DO care here about the Wizards, and if they can get a couple more strong draft picks to go along with Wall, they will come very close to being the main draw here. DC will always be a Redskin town cause of the rich tradition, but with a new generation of fans seeing nothing but losing, and a shitty game day experience at Fed Ex, the Redskins certainly are not what they use to be.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Two TOTALLY different situations. Unseld helped bring a championship and winning basketball to this city. He was a GREAT NBA center at 6'7. There was a respect factor there and that's why Polin got somewhat of a pass. Polin considered Unseld like family, just like Snyder thinks of Joe Gibbs. Cerrato was hated from the start, when he was hiding out in a Dulles airport hotel room trying to get in Redskin Park while John Cooke and Casserly were still there. Plus his not wanting veterans around. I could go on and on about why people hate Vinny. What did he do for anyone to like him? People DO care here about the Wizards, and if they can get a couple more strong draft picks to go along with Wall, they will come very close to being the main draw here. DC will always be a Redskin town cause of the rich tradition, but with a new generation of fans seeing nothing but losing, and a shitty game day experience at Fed Ex, the Redskins certainly are what they use to be.

Well what Unseld did as a player shouldn't have anything to do with him being a general manager. But whatever, beyond that we can just agree to disagree. I'm done with this topic. I've said what I have to say (and apparently crossed some sort of line) and I'm ready to move on

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When Abe Pollin employed Wes Unseld year after year after year as his head coach/general manager and the team repeatedly failed to make the playoffs and had a piss poor scouting dept and no presence in Europe, and Unseld even said I probably don't deserve this job; everyone was all "wow, Pollin is such a loyal guy good for him" Snyder employs Cerrato and it's all "racquetball butt buddies" Why? Because people just dont care in DC as much about the Wizards as they do the Redskins. I have Wizards season tix, I have been to hundreds more Wizards games than any other team. I don't carevabout them half as much as I do the Skins.

Wizards fans had a reason to tolerate Unseld, not Cerrato.

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well in all fairness to Napoleon that story was kind of blown up by the media. The women that was losing her home was going to lose it anyway, regardless of whether or not they Redskins sued her.

Reallly? *sarcasm alert* Stop and read what you just posted. Seriously, don't try defending that one. It's just not going to work out.