Updated Title: World Revolution 2011

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Yeah, distress in the middle east doesnt seem like anything new to me, sadly. Hopefully they dont burn down the pymirds or the sphinx.

The one thing im kind of interested in is the whole Muslim Brotherhood thing. People on the right are pointing out all the extreme muslim type terrorist stuff that this group is either partly responsible for, or members of this group have done, or the connections with this group and flat terriorst groups. Then people on the left are saying theres nothing to worry about this group and are almost making the MB sound like a good proposition for control of Egypt and the middle east. Just sounds weird to me.

Yeah, burning down well-guarded stone buildings far far away in the ****ing desert. Really practical. Or are you just ignorant of the logistics?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Yeah, burning down well-guarded stone buildings far far away in the ****ing desert. Really practical. Or are you just ignorant of the logistics?

The pyramids and the Sphinx are located in Giza, essentially a suburb if cairo with a population of 5 million. Not exactly the middle of nowhere.

Apparently opposition parties meet with VP Omar Sulieman to discuss constitutional change. The Muslim Brotherhood was not included in the meetings.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

The pyramids and the Sphinx are located in Giza, essentially a suburb if cairo with a population of 5 million. Not exactly the middle of nowhere.

Apparently opposition parties meet with VP Omar Sulieman to discuss constitutional change. The Muslim Brotherhood was not included in the meetings.

What a terrible mistake.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by saden1

What a terrible mistake.

Why? Just curious, i dont really know what to think either way

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Why? Just curious, i dont really know what to think either way

They are considered to be one of the largest opposition organizations to the current government. So if there was a transition to occur they would represent the feelings of a large population.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

They are considered to be one of the largest opposition organizations to the current government. So if there was a transition to occur they would represent the feelings of a large population.

That and the fact that excluding groups rarely works...see the exclusion of Ba'ath party in Iraq and Taliban in Afghanistan. You want them to have a voice even if you dont agree with them...unlike al qada they can at least play political ball.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

That and the fact that excluding groups rarely works...see the exclusion of Ba'ath party in Iraq and Taliban in Afghanistan. You want them to have a voice even if you dont agree with them...unlike al qada they can at least play political ball.

So you think the Taliban should have a say in Afghanistan government? What your doing then is recognizing them because of their violence. Why not just let the prisoners run the jail.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Yeah, burning down well-guarded stone buildings far far away in the ****ing desert. Really practical. Or are you just ignorant of the logistics?

Will the Egyptian Pyramids be destroyed?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Will the Egyptian Pyramids be destroyed?

Let those idiots blow it up.


"Hey guys, I have a great idea that'll bring this country into prosperity. LETS BLOW UP OUR ONLY SOURCE OF TOURISM!!!"



These people are sounding much like our fundies here in America.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Let those idiots blow it up.


"Hey guys, I have a great idea that'll bring this country into prosperity. LETS BLOW UP OUR ONLY SOURCE OF TOURISM!!!"



These people are sounding much like our fundies here in America.

um? just curious, when was the last time someone suggested demolishing the Washington Monument (an obelisk, clearly pagan in nature [/sarcasm]) or any other national treasure.

[mlmpetert]

Slight tangent:

I watched The Mystery of The Sphinx with Charleston Heston a year or so ago on Netflix. It was from the 90’s maybe even the late 80s. It was pretty difficult to watch and what you would expect/remember from documentaries from back then. However I learned a couple things from it:

1) Egyptologist is not only a real word but its also a real profession. Shockingly left without ownership until 1952, L Ron Hubbard laid claim to the words Scientology and Scientologist, forever making a career of being a scientist without a specialty no career at all.

2) I cant remember when but Westerns are to blame (aka thank) for the Great Sphinx as we know it today. It was covered in sand up to its head and apparently sand is hard as shit to remove in a desert. I believe the same may be true to some extent for the pyramids.

3) The Great Sphinx and the Pyramids are national treasures belonging to the Egyptian peoples. Tourism is one of the biggest factors for the Egyptian economy and their national treasures are a huge part of that.

Now all of the above is obvious, but what was most interesting about the documentary, and perhaps the “Mystery” the title was alluding to, was that the Great Sphinx may not have been built by Egyptians, but rather by black Africans. I believe the Zulus are/were the best guess.

The documentary claimed the Great Sphinx was MUCH older than assumed and was built during a time when the Zulu people where likely in East Africa. Some Geologists, Climatologists and perhaps other “ologists” (with the exception of Scientologists) were making this claim based off of erosion (considering rainfall in the desert), numerous repairs and the materials used for the repairs along with the erosion to those repairs, the quarries the stones came from, the current and suspected previous faces of the Sphinx, the scale of the head to the body, sphinxes in Egyptian culture and a bunch of other stuff.

But these theories are/were shunned by Egyptologist. I think the field of Egyptology is/was very political, as its difficult to suggest to the Egyptian people that they didn’t build their own national treasures now that they believe they have. There may be racial factors as well. And I think once people started questioning the origins of the Sphinx the Egyptian government made it difficult for them to practice their science in Egypt. And an Egyptologist without Egypt is like a Scientologist without science….. wait never mind.

It was a interesting documentary (albeit painful to watch). I tried to cross check a lot of the claims on the internet and there is some things you can find relating to the issue although its not necessarily easy reading.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

um? just curious, when was the last time someone suggested demolishing the Washington Monument (an obelisk, clearly pagan in nature [/sarcasm]) or any other national treasure.

Give them time, they'll find something. Right now, they are content on demolishing people's rights over buildings right now. :cheeky-sm

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Give them time, they'll find something. Right now, they are content on demolishing people's rights over buildings right now. :cheeky-sm

Right now some liberals are a step ahead trying to demolish constitutional second amendment rights.

And isn't getting rid of public displays / attractions they don't like (nativity scenes for example) also a liberal thing?