Snyder Camp Upset!!

[Ruhskins]

I hate to be political, but I find it funny that everyone complains about Snyder's antics, yet a good portion of this country and a political party continues to support legislation/loopholes that cut taxes on rich people like Snyder and helps them get even richer. And what I am trying to say is, what else do you expect from a rich and powerful person? I'm sure all rich and powerful people in this country are not like them, but probably a lot of them are.

That being said, while I do think Snyder has overreacted (but I'm not surprised that he did), I also think that the media in this area (and the country) tend to beat the dead horse over and over again in regards to Snyder and the Redskins. And maybe...maybe this article got a bit too personal. Yet I don't think Snyder can win this suit (although I am no legal expert).

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I hate to be political, but I find it funny that everyone complains about Snyder's antics, yet a good portion of this country and a political party continues to support legislation/loopholes that cut taxes on rich people like Snyder and helps them get even richer. And what I am trying to say is, what else do you expect from a rich and powerful person? I'm sure all rich and powerful people in this country are not like them, but probably a lot of them are.

That being said, while I do think Snyder has overreacted (but I'm not surprised that he did), I also think that the media in this area (and the country) tend to beat the dead horse over and over again in regards to Snyder and the Redskins. And maybe...maybe this article got a bit too personal. Yet I don't think Snyder can win this suit (although I am no legal expert).

Yes, he will definitely lose the lawsuit. But with any luck he will get the author fired for having the gumption to jump in the middle of the highway.

[juskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I hate to be political, but I find it funny that everyone complains about Snyder's antics, yet a good portion of this country and a political party continues to support legislation/loopholes that cut taxes on rich people like Snyder and helps them get even richer. And what I am trying to say is, what else do you expect from a rich and powerful person? I'm sure all rich and powerful people in this country are not like them, but probably a lot of them are.

That being said, while I do think Snyder has overreacted (but I'm not surprised that he did), I also think that the media in this area (and the country) tend to beat the dead horse over and over again in regards to Snyder and the Redskins. And maybe...maybe this article got a bit too personal. Yet I don't think Snyder can win this suit (although I am no legal expert).

Like Dan chopping down trees so he could have a better view from his property?

The guy is a travesty and a parody waiting to happen. He owns the team that I love. I blame the NFL for selling this team to him. The NFL knew what kind of owner he would be. He even PURPOSELY over-spent for the team thus insuring him of a niffy return should he sell it. This should have been an omen to the fan base that Snyder cares not for the team but cares for making a big splash in the public arena.

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by juskins

Like Dan chopping down trees so he could have a better view from his property?

The guy is a travesty and a parody waiting to happen. He owns the team that I love. I blame the NFL for selling this team to him. The NFL knew what kind of owner he would be. He even PURPOSELY over-spent for the team thus insuring him of a niffy return should he sell it. This should have been an omen to the fan base that Snyder cares not for the team but cares for making a big splash in the public arena.

That's your problem. It's not the NFL's fault. You should really blame Jack kent Cooke for not leaving the team to his son as opposed to making it so that the team would be put up for sale so that your charity could get more money. Really you kind of should be happy because JKC's charity got more money because Snyder "overpaid" for the team. It was an omen to me just how much this team was worth, or how important it was for one to own it.

So I say blame Jack Kent Cooke, because had he just left the team to his son then we would've won 7 Super Bowls by now right ?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

That's your problem. It's not the NFL's fault. You should really blame Jack kent Cooke for not leaving the team to his son as opposed to making it so that the team would be put up for sale so that your charity could get more money. Really you kind of should be happy because JKC's charity got more money because Snyder "overpaid" for the team. It was an omen to me just how much this team was worth, or how important it was for one to own it.

So I say blame Jack Kent Cooke, because had he just left the team to his son then we would've won 7 Super Bowls by now right ?

Sarcasm Duly noted.

Had JKC's son bought it, we would have an owner that was on a beach somewhere sipping margarita's, while we fans moaned about his lack of investment in the team. (that's my opinion)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Sarcasm Duly noted.

Had JKC's son bought it, we would have an owner that was on a beach somewhere sipping margarita's, while we fans moaned about his lack of investment in the team. (that's my opinion)

I can't stand it when people say this cause it's total 100% BS! When the team was under his control he went out and spent money. Does Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkonson ring a bell??? It's water under the bridge cause JKC dicked his own son, but there is NO QUESTION in my mind that we'd be in MUCH better hands had John Cooke kept the team.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I can't stand it when people say this cause it's total 100% BS! When the team was under his control he went out and spent money. Does Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkonson ring a bell??? It's water under the bridge cause JKC dicked his own son, but there is NO QUESTION in my mind that we'd be in MUCH better hands had John Cooke kept the team.

2 high priced FA's that were pretty much busts.

So how would things have without question been different?

Just because they shared the same name doesn't make John would have been a great owner.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

2 high priced FA's that were pretty much busts.

So how would things have without question been different?

Just because they shared the same name doesn't make John would have been a great owner.

C'mon Matty. Give me a break. You know damn well that this team would've been run in a much more professional manner if John Cooke was the owner. When Snyder took over this team was well on it's way and he came in a ripped it apart. He's been a shitty owner. If you can't figure that out for yourself then so be it. So I guess John Cooke would've embrasssed his head coach by bringing in a bingo caller to call plays mid season. I could go on and on. But I do understand that this is your website, and it's your job to be objective.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I can't stand it when people say this cause it's total 100% BS! When the team was under his control he went out and spent money. Does Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkonson ring a bell??? It's water under the bridge cause JKC dicked his own son, but there is NO QUESTION in my mind that we'd be in MUCH better hands had John Cooke kept the team.

Profile of John Kent Cooke, son of former Redskins owner Jack Kent Cooke - washingtonpost.com

[sportscurmudgeon]

Hey Matty! Is there still a seat on your "Don't Give A Shit Bus"?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Profile of John Kent Cooke, son of former Redskins owner Jack Kent Cooke - washingtonpost.com

Good find...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Profile of John Kent Cooke, son of former Redskins owner Jack Kent Cooke - washingtonpost.com

I remember this last year and he was also on Mike Wise....and if I remember correctly he didn't have very nice things to say about Snyder. But like I said, it's water under the bridge.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Profile of John Kent Cooke, son of former Redskins owner Jack Kent Cooke - washingtonpost.com

Excellent article! I'm now depressed!

[juskins]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

That's your problem. It's not the NFL's fault. You should really blame Jack kent Cooke for not leaving the team to his son as opposed to making it so that the team would be put up for sale so that your charity could get more money. Really you kind of should be happy because JKC's charity got more money because Snyder "overpaid" for the team. It was an omen to me just how much this team was worth, or how important it was for one to own it.

So I say blame Jack Kent Cooke, because had he just left the team to his son then we would've won 7 Super Bowls by now right ?

No, it was another flamboyant owner (JKC) over rating his demeanor and his place in life. I think Mr. Cook was saying to his sons, I bought the Washington Redskins with the money I earned. If one of my sons wants ownership of this team, they will have to find a way to buy it on their own merit. Not from heritability. I will bequeath you, John, an investment that you can parlay with other investors to buy the team that I will sell to you or whomever. I wish it did not have to be parsed out that way but I had nothing to do with it or nor did any other fan have a say about it.

I really think a cleaver lawyer can find a way to sue the NFL and Snyder for Dan's ownership of this team. If they did not win the suit, they would bring public opinion down on Mr. Snyder. I know you are saying "dream on" but the point being the entire process of finding the "right" owner was done with fixing the salable market of the Washington Redskins organization so that the NFL would profit by it.

I have bitten my tongue by supporting Snyder for many years. But, there comes a time when enough is enough with Dan. He has brought this franchise down and made it a laughing stock of the NFL.

By you claiming to support Dan Snyder is a let down from one fan to another. Surely, you just.

Yes, Dan Snyder over paid for this organization for his own greed and was not thinking of JKC's beloved charity - not my charity, as you alluded to.

If the response was close to half in support of the law suit and half in opposition to the law suit then I could see why you would throw your hat in Dan's corner. But to be the lone wolf in the forest howling by your lonesome should say something other than your supposedly support for Snyder is a little suspicious, don't you think?

Dan Snyder is a bad owner, period. I am fed up with the one liner "that Dan just wants to win", BS. If he just wants to win then sell the team. Of course that won't happen. We are stuck with this dollar maniac. This is not a rant against anyone who has wealth, not at all. But I am sick and tried of fans saying Dan is a passionate owner. My ass he is.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by juskins

No, it was another flamboyant owner (JKC) over rating his demeanor and his place in life. I think Mr. Cook was saying to his sons, I bought the Washington Redskins with the money I earned. If one of my sons wants ownership of this team, they will have to find a way to buy it on their own merit. Not from heritability. I will bequeath you, John, an investment that you can parlay with other investors to buy the team that I will sell to you or whomever. I wish it did not have to be parsed out that way but I had nothing to do with it or nor did any other fan have a say about it.

I really think a cleaver lawyer can find a way to sue the NFL and Snyder for Dan's ownership of this team. If they did not win the suit, they would bring public opinion down on Mr. Snyder. I know you are saying "dream on" but the point being the entire process of finding the "right" owner was done with fixing the salable market of the Washington Redskins organization so that the NFL would profit by it.

I have bitten my tongue by supporting Snyder for many years. But, there comes a time when enough is enough with Dan. He has brought this franchise down and made it a laughing stock of the NFL.

By you claiming to support Dan Snyder is a let down from one fan to another. Surely, you just.

Yes, Dan Snyder over paid for this organization for his own greed and was not thinking of JKC's beloved charity - not my charity, as you alluded to.

If the response was close to half in support of the law suit and half in opposition to the law suit then I could see why you would throw your hat in Dan's corner. But to be the lone wolf in the forest howling by your lonesome should say something other than your supposedly support for Snyder is a little suspicious, don't you think?

Dan Snyder is a bad owner, period. I am fed up with the one liner "that Dan just wants to win", BS. If he just wants to win then sell the team. Of course that won't happen. We are stuck with this dollar maniac. This is not a rant against anyone who has wealth, not at all. But I am sick and tried of fans saying Dan is a passionate owner. My ass he is.

I am just as sick of fans who, having (most likely) little clue of the complexities of owning an NFL franchise, sit and berate another lifelong Redskin fan(which DS by all accounts is) because he had a chance to come in, and own the team. I swear that any fan who came in would have been the same little boy in the candy shop and bought up all the big names he could. BUT, fact is we don't own the team, and we can't understand the overall plan, and many new owners go through long transitions (JJ may have won quick, but his Cowboys had had a longer playoff losing streak than us), and I believe we have seen a positive trend in DS' understanding of being an NFL owner, and particularly the owner of the Washington Redskins. It's ridiculous to blast out hate on this guy but it happens because his actions/inactions are subject to INTENSE scrutiny by passionate fans and the rabid press.

In the end, you are entitled to hate DS, that's fine, but it's grass is greener thinking that any other serious competitor to own the Skins would have done any better or have been a more passionate owner.