Super Bowl XLV

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Very rare does that happen though most SB teams have big time QBs

In addition to Trent Dilfer let me point out Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien and Jim McMahon, Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler as Super Bowl winning QBs.

SB participants on losing teams include Stan Humphries, Neal O'Donnell, Earl Morrall, Craig Morton, Billy Kilmer, Vince Ferragamo, David Woodley, Tony Eason, Chris Chandler, Kerry Collins and Rich Gannon.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

........let me point out Trent Dilfore(sp)

That's called an exception to the rule.

And it's Dilfer.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

That's called an exception to the rule.

And it's Dilfer.

It's not even an argument, you need a big time QB to compete in this league year in and out Bottom Line.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

That's called an exception to the rule.

And it's Dilfer.

Thanks ...at 4 in the am I wasn't sure.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Giantone

........let me point out Trent Dilfore(sp)

The Giants didn't have much of a QB when they beat the Pats a few years ago...or the Bills in XXV. (Jeff Hostettler)

Eli was garbage until the last 4 games of that season. Finished the year with 20 TDs, 23 INTs. 56% comp rate.


Nice 25 INTs this season too.




Point is, Difer is not the only mediocre QB to win a SB. Brad Johnson won a QB too...and even Mark Rypien's SB-winning season was an exceptional season in his career. He never matched those amazing numbers again.

It happens a little more often than people mention. Of course, there are always star QBs who win in bunches (Montana, Bradshaw, Brady) who fill up the list of SB-winning QBs, making it APPEAR that a star QB is a necessity to win it all. Most of those QBs also have dominant defenses on their sideline too, as do the Dilfers of the history books.

[MTK]

Of course you need more than just a QB, but there's no doubt that teams with the big time QBs are the ones that are always in the hunt at season's end.

[CultBrennan59]

And yet the redskins streak of playing the super bowl winning team the past 4 years stands.

[firstdown]

Was it just me or did Randel El celebrate his catches like he had score TD's. He was the only one that I noticed over celebrating everything they did.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Was it just me or did Randel El celebrate his catches like he had score TD's. He was the only one that I noticed over celebrating everything they did.

He's always done that stuff

[Longtimefan]

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[SirClintonPortis]

Meh, Shanahan made a gaffe when he first benched McNabb, but McNabb was a sick little bitchy ****ing coward with the whole agent ordeal.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I did. Our franchise has things it can learn from the successful ones. The thing I notice the most on the winning teams is the players and coaches respect each other. No public throwing each other under the bus. They enjoy working together. What a concept.

Like Tiki and Tom Coughlin? Its a good general statement, but there is more to it then just that. And again Shanahan has been successful in the past and hopefully will be in the future.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Like Tiki and Tom Coughlin? Its a good general statement, but there is more to it then just that. And again Shanahan has been successful in the past and hopefully will be in the future.

Shahahan has been successful with one of the best, if not the best QB of all time. He's already proven that he's really not a great personel man. Say what you will about Coughlin but he's a damn good football coach. I wouldn't want to play for him but he's a proven winner with two teams.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Shahahan has been successful with one of the best, if not the best QB of all time. He's already proven that he's really not a great personel man. Say what you will about Coughlin but he's a damn good football coach. I wouldn't want to play for him but he's a proven winner with two teams.

That was kind of my point. Not every SB winning coach, or great coach, has perfect people skills. Shanahan may or may not be able to get past AH/McNabb of this year, but people have to remember this is year 1. Regardless of win now, he had to get on the playing field and see who could do what. I personally think he just didn't want the ongoing JC saga to distract and thought, mistakenly, that McNabb would give him a non-distraction at QB. His first year in Denver he went 8-8. It was an up and down season. He went 6-10 here. Let's give another year (maybe 2) and see how many distractions the team has. My guess is it will be fewer each year, and our win loss record will improve each year as well.

[skinsfaninok]

So the redskins were 3-1 vs the NFC Playoff teams (3-2) vs the entire playoff field. Hey at least we can beat the good teams.