ESPN Say's Newton To Enter Draft

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

We really need to draft an "elite" NFL QB.

I sure as heck hope that an "elite" QB is there when we pick at #10.

Out of the top six QB prospects there is maybe a 50/50 chance that one of them will be elite at the next level.

We need that guy. Nothing else matters.

Our odds suck, but we need to hit our card on the river. We need a legit QB.

Draft a QB with the first and second round pick for all I care.

If you're just looking for best QB prospect available at no. 10, scheme be damned, Ponder is probably the best bet. But no one is taking Ponder that high because he has questions about his physical tools and durability, and no one wants to consider a "damaged goods" quarterback that high.

But if you're looking just at an elite guy with the entire package, and deeming everything else (average starter, for example) to be a failure, Ponder makes sense at no. 10. If he stays really healthy, he could develop into a top ten NFL QB.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If you're just looking for best QB prospect available at no. 10, scheme be damned, Ponder is probably the best bet. But no one is taking Ponder that high because he has questions about his physical tools and durability, and no one wants to consider a "damaged goods" quarterback that high.

But if you're looking just at an elite guy with the entire package, and deeming everything else (average starter, for example) to be a failure, Ponder makes sense at no. 10. If he stays really healthy, he could develop into a top ten NFL QB.

Go find your own bandwagon!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Go find your own bandwagon!

Bah!

I'm not suggesting we take Christian Ponder at no. 10. I'm saying it makes sense under the "epic success or bust" philosophy at quarterback because 1) Gabbert will be gone by 10, and 2) There aren't a lot of true believers in Locker/Newton/Mallett as elite players. I think people believe in them as potential starters in a weak class.

As for me, I'm not a buyer in the "you need an epic quarterback to compete" philosophy. Teams need to do a lot of things well to compete, that happens to just be one of the few that isn't below everyone's radar. But competent quarterbacks are absolutely everywhere, and that doesn't fit with the narrative about "winners" and such. Competent quarterbacks can appear to be either winners or losers. Just that the "losers" can be acquired much, much cheaper.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Go find your own bandwagon!

Hey Smoot this is off topic but I was wondering when will B-Mitch reply to our questions?

Thanks

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Hey Smoot this is off topic but I was wondering when will B-Mitch reply to our questions?

Thanks

I don't know. Haven't had a chance to catch up with him lately. I'll check

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Go find your own bandwagon!

I can't wait for the team to go to Dalton's Pro Day so When my banwagon thread gets started I can get all excited too about how he's the best QB out there and how he has the most potential.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I can't wait for the team to go to Dalton's Pro Day so When my banwagon thread gets started I can get all excited too about how he's the best QB out there and how he has the most potential.

For the last time. We're not going to make Charlie Frye our franchise QB. I'm sorry did I say Charlie Frye I meant to say Andy Dalton

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

For the last time. We're not going to make Charlie Frye our franchise QB. I'm sorry did I say Charlie Frye I meant to say Andy Dalton

Hey simply put..... Charlie Frye... I mean Andy Dalton knows how to win... did he even lose a game in 2010? I think not. :O

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Hey simply put..... Charlie Frye... I mean Andy Dalton knows how to win... did he even lose a game in 2010? I think not. :O

Yeah well I tell you what if them TCU fellars done be in the SEC they done would have been like negative 18 and twelve. SEC done be the best conference from top to bottom. Vanderbilt would win the PAC 10 with ease never mind TCU's cute little wanna be college conference. Yes sire I tell you what.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Yeah well I tell you what if them TCU fellars done be in the SEC they done would have been like negative 18 and twelve. SEC done be the best conference from top to bottom. Vanderbilt would win the PAC 10 with ease never mind TCU's cute little wanna be college conference. Yes sire I tell you what.

You've spent waaaay too much time in Georgia. Despite my alma mater, I'm not a southerner, but if I was I'd be offended.

But admit it, if TCU was in the SEC, they certainly wouldn't have 12-0/11-1 type records the past few years. 10-2/9-3 is definitely possible, but not this undefeated stuff.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Hey simply put..... Charlie Frye... I mean Andy Dalton knows how to win... did he even lose a game in 2010? I think not. :O

Andy Dalton looks like a good overall guy and QB. He has the tools minus the off the field question marks. His work ethic is pretty strong. The work ethic is why I am down on taking a chance with Cam. Plus, like JC, Cam had one hell of a team behind him in a rather weak year for the SEC. Other than really Bama and Auburn, with LSU tagging behind, the SEC wasn't as strong as usual.