Best/Worst Young Cores

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinster

What teams the best and worst offensive, defensive, and overall young cores. Guys under 30 (the younger the better) that should be solid starters in the league for years to come is my definition of a young core player.

Worst:
Defensive: Broncos. I read an article recently that said that robert ayers was by far their best front 7 player (and they have zero young secondary starters). Ayers had 1.5 sacks as a pass rusher. Pathetic
Offensive: Unfortunately it seems to be the Redskins. Trent Williams/Chris Cooley are the only solid starters for years to come IMO (I'm not convinced Brown will be here or healthy a few years down the road, and I'm not a believer in anyone else). The seahawks could also be said here, they have Okung and Carlson as their only true young core guys IMO, but Williams and the possibility of tate edge them out as second worst.
Overall: Panthers. I would say broncos, but I think Tebow might pan out. I have zero faith in clausen.

Best
Packers
Packers
Packers
Young and deep on all aspects of the team. The amount of young guys that stepped up to fill in for injured players this year is ridiculous. Ted Thompson deserves all the praise he has been getting.

I agree that the Packers/Panthers are best worst.

About the comment about Ayers being the best front 7 player for Denver, I'd say that's without question Elvis Dumervil, he just missed last season with that torn pec muscle.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree that the Packers/Panthers are best worst.

About the comment about Ayers being the best front 7 player for Denver, I'd say that's without question Elvis Dumervil, he just missed last season with that torn pec muscle.

I know I was talking about last year. I was trying to emphasize the horrible lack of depth on this team. Even with dumervil, they only have 3 young players on that roster that have a shadows chance of starting 3 years down the road. Dumervil, ayers, and (sort of young) williams. I really do not buy into ayers being an impact player, I do not think that williams will be that effective in 3 years, and I just can't take dumervil seriously as anything other than a pass-rush situation player. I'm not writing any of these guys off, I just think that when a team only has three guys that have potential to start 3 years in the future, they better be very good core players. I just don't see the present guys on the roster carrying the team in the future. Young talent is most needed on this defense more than any other.

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by skinster

I know I was talking about last year. I was trying to emphasize the horrible lack of depth on this team. Even with dumervil, they only have 3 young players on that roster that have a shadows chance of starting 3 years down the road. Dumervil, ayers, and (sort of young) williams. I really do not buy into ayers being an impact player, I do not think that williams will be that effective in 3 years, and I just can't take dumervil seriously as anything other than a pass-rush situation player. I'm not writing any of these guys off, I just think that when a team only has three guys that have potential to start 3 years in the future, they better be very good core players. I just don't see the present guys on the roster carrying the team in the future. Young talent is most needed on this defense more than any other.

Are you trying to point out that Shannys old team obviously has a lack of young talent and that this could mean you think we have a HC who doesnt build young, talented teams? I'm not even 100% sure I would disagree with that, I'm just looking for some clarification if possible.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Jontrem

Are you trying to point out that Shannys old team obviously has a lack of young talent and that this could mean you think we have a HC who doesnt build young, talented teams? I'm not even 100% sure I would disagree with that, I'm just looking for some clarification if possible.

It wasn't my original intention, but coincidentally I think Shanny is terrible with personnel (good coach, but s*** with personnel). My original intention of this thread is simply to discuss the future of the NFL, who will be able to play at a high level for years to come.

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by skinster

It wasn't my original intention, but coincidentally I think Shanny is terrible with personnel (good coach, but s*** with personnel). My original intention of this thread is simply to discuss the future of the NFL, who will be able to play at a high level for years to come.

Sadly not us right now! This draft/offseason (if there is a real F/A signing period) could tell us alot about how the team will be constructed under Shanny. If he goes for youth over names I will dance a little jig!

And thanks for the clarification, I wasnt trying to be a D-bag or anything just trying to understand

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Jontrem

Sadly not us right now! This draft/offseason (if there is a real F/A signing period) could tell us alot about how the team will be constructed under Shanny. If he goes for youth over names I will dance a little jig!

And thanks for the clarification, I wasnt trying to be a D-bag or anything just trying to understand

I think he will.

Look at the contributors from this year:

Trent Williams
Ryan Torain
Keiland Williams
Brandon Banks
Anthony Bryant
Kevin Barnes
Rob Jackson
Perry Riley
Terrence Austin

plenty more...

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Buster

I think he will.

Look at the contributors from this year:

Trent Williams
Ryan Torain
Keiland Williams
Brandon Banks
Anthony Bryant
Kevin Barnes
Rob Jackson
Perry Riley
Terrence Austin

plenty more...

With the exception of Banks and Williams, Shanny kept every single one of those players to fill the roster. Torain was the 3rd back in the beginning of the season and only moved up due to an injury and a cut, Williams, Bryant, (even Banks), and Austin were not even on the team's opening day roster. Barnes, Jackson, and Riley were only active a combined total of 20 games. There is no current youth movement going on here.