Ramsey's last days as a Redskin

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

well as long as we get a good CB then the other pick i can live with. i think we are gonna trade down to the second round with number 25 maybe package gardner and 25 for a 3rd and 2nd round pick.

That's an interesting thought...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

well as long as we get a good CB then the other pick i can live with. i think we are gonna trade down to the second round with number 25 maybe package gardner and 25 for a 3rd and 2nd round pick.

NOW some sensible talk...

[offiss]

Are we to believe that Gibbs traded away next years #1 for a mediocre QB? especially when the QB pool next year is much more talented than this one. If Smith and Rogers were in last years draft they probably wouldn't have been drafted until the second rd. neither 1 of them are better than the top 5 last year, [Is it me or does A.Smith look like the second coming of Heath Shuler?] I will tell you this the QB situation in this draft is the same as when Shuler and Dilfer were coming out, and neither ever panned out, and these 2 will probably never do anything significant in the NFL, and Campbell is rated behind them, amazing! No one had Campbell going in the first rd and now that we make a trade for another 1st rd pick all of a sudden he's 1st rd material?

Everyone say's Gibbs doesn't like young QB's, so we pass up on franchise type QB's last season to draft a mediocre QB this year, and we give up a #1 next season when there will be better QB's avail. to overpay for Campbell this season, this kid is not a great college QB, he is not a phenomenal
athlete, and is probably 3 years away from seeing the field, and we are to believe that Gibbs is going to take on a project like Campbell when in all liklyhood he's done after his 5 year's are up.

It sounds like to me that the media is saying just about anything to create a story, every rumor started is because they saw a player at redskin park or a player we visited as if we haven't visited a multiple of players, my thought is their getting nothing from management and aren't to happy with that so they are needling management with falsehoods and rumor after rumor like they did a few day's ago with Vinny.

There are scouts who believe Campbell was a product of superior talent this season, and thats the reason his stats increased so much this year from his previous years.

If Gibbs draft's this kid with the #25 it will prove he knows nothing when it comes to judging unproven talent, which would explain why he's so in love with free agency, it's much easier to evaluate established talent you just have to pay more for it, I am probably getting ahead of myself here but I was saying the same thing last year when he was targeting Brunell and we all know how that worked out!

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by offiss

...There are scouts who believe Campbell was a product of superior talent this season, and thats the reason his stats increased so much this year from his previous years. If Gibbs draft's this kid with the #25 it will prove he knows nothing when it comes to judging unproven talent...

Aren't most QBs drafted high in the first round products of teams with superior talent around them? That's like Carson Palmer quarterbacking for the University of the District of Columbia. Go firebirds!

[offiss]

Originally Posted by BossHog

Aren't most QBs drafted high in the first round products of teams with superior talent around them? That's like Carson Palmer quarterbacking for the University of the District of Columbia. Go firebirds!

Troy Aikmen, John Elway, and plenty of others who weren't surrounded by great talent.

[joethiesmanfan]

malcolm what if we picked Campbell in teh second round would you agree with that?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I would be OK with that. I just think it's a HUGE waste of a #1 pick on a position we don't need. Again, I'd be OK with that. I wouldn't like the strain (possible) it would put on Ramsey, but I also like the possibility of having a half-way decent backup.

Also, to whoever said Hasselbeck would be gone this year, he signed his deal, so he's back. Just an FYI.

[wolfeskins]

have you guys heard the rumor that the skins want to trade the 25 pick to the bills (who do not own a first round pick ) for their cb nate clements ? use the 9 pick to get a wr. or trade out of 9 to a later pick but still use it on a wr.

[joethiesmanfan]

Well we could also get a good wideout in the 2nd round and the 3rd round get an o-lineman i want o-line dominance. our WR's we can live with with o-line dominance. but i wouldnt pick another linemen in the first round ever again. unless you just deperate at o-line like we were for a minute.

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Well we could also get a good wideout in the 2nd round and the 3rd round get an o-lineman i want o-line dominance. our WR's we can live with with o-line dominance. but i wouldnt pick another linemen in the first round ever again. unless you just deperate at o-line like we were for a minute.

In my opinion, I don't think any second round prospects will make the team much better. If we draft a WR it has to be Mike Williams or Matt Jones unless we trade up to get Braylon Edwards.

[joethiesmanfan]

Matt Jones is going very early watch what happens on draft day.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Matt Jones is going very early watch what happens on draft day.

I don't know if he will go early first round but I think he will go late first or early second. I have a good feeling about this guy. Its not one of the I look at all his stats good feeling. Its one of he is a gifted athlete and will be a performer if you can just let him play his natural position which seems to be t. A team will take a risk with this guy and will receive a hudge dividen for.

[joethiesmanfan]

anyone have espn insider they have an article about the redskins making a draft day deal i am not a mmember of their club i want to know what they are saying the link is on the homepage of espn.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

anyone have espn insider they have an article about the redskins making a draft day deal i am not a mmember of their club i want to know what they are saying the link is on the homepage of espn.

I've posted the draft rumors from the past few days on the ESPN Insider Draft Rumor thread. It's not as earth-shattering as it seems from the title. They just basically said that the skins have contacted the top 4 teams about moving up to, presumably, draft Braylon.

[joethiesmanfan]

ohh okay cool