Ongoing CBA discussions

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

$1B was the initial bargaining point. They came way down from that. The owners have provided a lot more financial data than "Just trust us".

The 1 bil referred to as the starting point . .is that the orig 1 bil the owners have gotten to take from the top under the expiring CBA or are you referring to the second 1 bil the owner want to take off the top before they start to negotiate how to split the remaining profits (7 bil)?

This is textbook, ask for an extra 1 bil that you dont really believe you will get at the start, then make concessions only to that extra 1 bil and claim the other side walked away from a great deal. "Hey we came down from 1 bil to 240 mil but that still wasnt enough to satisfy the players." In reality, the players would be giving up 240 mil, not gaining 760 mil b/c the NFL has no right to that extra 1 bil just cuz they asked for it, just like the NFLPA has no right to all 9 bil just b/c they may ask for it.

The NFL's impression of the strating point was not the same as the NFLPAs i suspect.

I thought the initial starting point should be based off the orig agreement, then each party makes concessions/modifications based off that.

What stops the NFLPA from demanding that the intial starting point is they want 57.5% of 9 bil? (the NFLPA probably started at 50/50 of the whole 9 bil imo).

I just find the NFL's stance that the initial starting point of how to split 7 bil (and not 8 or 9 bil) was in bad faith. This isnt some car accident or accounting being fired. There are alot of smart people in the room and they can see tactics for what they are. Starting unreasonably and artifically high, then making concessions only to that unreasonableness is an obvious and petty negotiating tactic.

If I was the NFLPA I wouldnt have responded either, it was just such an unreasonable demand it doesnt deserve a response b/c once you start responding/rebutting you find yourself negotiating ... and negotiating from their orig unreas starting point the other side tried to force upon you.