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Old 03-16-2011, 01:13 PM   #1
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SS, I understand that other teams do this and it's their right to protect their labels and product. I get that, I really do.

However, I also read that the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles all have media outlets that have similar blogs or sections in their coverage.


Let's be honest. This boils down to Dan Snyder being a punk ass bitch. He's hated the WaPO since he's taken over because he can't stand criticism. Don't believe me? Read this reporters experience with Dan Snyder first hand. Appalling.

Feinstein On The Brink


You don't think this isn't about Danny boy's beef with the WaPO because they've killed him in the papers? You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

I'm sorry, I certainly don't agree with the assessment that Dan Snyder's actions are overblown. Why is it you don't hear a single issue with other owners and the media? I can tell you why. Because most of the other owners are smart enough not to fight with the very people who are covering you.



It's funny though. Dan sure as hell didn't have a problem stealing somebody else name for profit.

Dan Snyder vs. the Kennedys: It Has Hooters and Cigar-Bar Access, But Should it Have RFK's Initials? - Washington City Paper



Let's not forget this gem. Threatening to fire a cheerleader if her husband talked to a competing media outlet. Overblown? ...lol No, his actions speak to his character.
Redskins owner apologizes over TV dispute involving cheerleader


No. **** Dan Snyder. He'll never atone for the shit he's done to the team. The only way he has a chance if he stays the **** out of the public eye and not speak at all unless it's a charity events. I don't want to hear a single word from this man unless it's "I'm selling the team".
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:37 PM   #2
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SS, I understand that other teams do this and it's their right to protect their labels and product. I get that, I really do.

However, I also read that the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles all have media outlets that have similar blogs or sections in their coverage.
Maybe they don't have other contractual obligations with other media. And they're not talking about shutting down the blog, just changing the name. Do all these other outlets use the team name in their title or do they use generic names such as Birds' Eye View in the Philadelphia Inquirer, or

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Let's be honest. This boils down to Dan Snyder being a punk ass bitch. He's hated the WaPO since he's taken over because he can't stand criticism. Don't believe me? Read this reporters experience with Dan Snyder first hand. Appalling.
What about when I was working at a tv station helping launch a new Sunday night show and we got a letter from John Kent Cooke after the first episode saying we had to remove the word Redskins from the title? Can I call Cooke a punk ass bitch?

The guy who called Shanahan a racist for benching McNabb? Yeah, who's the bitch now?

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You don't think this isn't about Danny boy's beef with the WaPO because they've killed him in the papers? You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

I'm sorry, I certainly don't agree with the assessment that Dan Snyder's actions are overblown. Why is it you don't hear a single issue with other owners and the media? I can tell you why. Because most of the other owners are smart enough not to fight with the very people who are covering you.
Actually because the media usually doesn't talk about it. We've had to make several adjustments but we don't go around saying "Bud Selig made us do this"

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It's funny though. Dan sure as hell didn't have a problem stealing somebody else name for profit.

Dan Snyder vs. the Kennedys: It Has Hooters and Cigar-Bar Access, But Should it Have RFK's Initials? - Washington City Paper
I think that's the first I've heard this story

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Let's not forget this gem. Threatening to fire a cheerleader if her husband talked to a competing media outlet. Overblown? ...lol No, his actions speak to his character.
Redskins owner apologizes over TV dispute involving cheerleader
I don't think we read the same article there, looked like a misunderstanding to me. But whatever, Snyder caused the mess in Iraq...

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No. **** Dan Snyder. He'll never atone for the shit he's done to the team. The only way he has a chance if he stays the **** out of the public eye and not speak at all unless it's a charity events. I don't want to hear a single word from this man unless it's "I'm selling the team".
Fine, whatever
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:29 AM   #3
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Maybe they don't have other contractual obligations with other media. And they're not talking about shutting down the blog, just changing the name. Do all these other outlets use the team name in their title or do they use generic names such as Birds' Eye View in the Philadelphia Inquirer, or
Post-Gazette.com - Pittsburgh Steelers
Dallas Cowboys News - Sports News for Dallas, Texas - SportsDayDFW
Philadelphia Eagles

They have a Cowboys, Mavericks, Stars, etc sections under their sports. Is that really any different than the WaPO having a Redskins Insider portion of their sports? (same with philly) Take in mind, I do not know if the DMN or Philly.com has a contract with their teams or not. Would it be fine if the WaPo had subsections like they do?


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What about when I was working at a tv station helping launch a new Sunday night show and we got a letter from John Kent Cooke after the first episode saying we had to remove the word Redskins from the title? Can I call Cooke a punk ass bitch?
I'm sorry, did you just really compare JKC to Snyder? Cooke was beloved by the fans because of his good nature (may have been a ass to his family) and left a good portion of his inheritance to his foundation to help kids with scholarships. Just curious, do you see Snyder doing such a thing? Yeah, neither do I so lets not compare apples to oranges. You mentioned a TV show. I think that's a bit different than a newspaper blog. Wouldn't you agree? To answer your question, if JKC had done the things that Snyder has, he'd definitely be considered a punk ass bitch.


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The guy who called Shanahan a racist for benching McNabb? Yeah, who's the bitch now?
So because a writer states a asinine opinion on something, that invalidates anything else he writes? Really? I think his stupidity in calling Shanahan racist has absolutely no bearing on his account with Dan Snyder. The fact you are playing the straw man bit doesn't bode well your retort.



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Actually because the media usually doesn't talk about it. We've had to make several adjustments but we don't go around saying "Bud Selig made us do this"

Bud Selig isn't looked at as a owner. He's a commissioner. I said owners. Name me one other owner that has the type of PR problem that Sndyer has with the media. Selig will also go down as MLBs worst commissioner ever. Not something I would hang my hat on.


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I think that's the first I've heard this story
I'm sure there are tons we haven't heard about. Do you read McKenna's work? The man clearly has a agenda, but his articles are informative and backed up with fact.



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I don't think we read the same article there, looked like a misunderstanding to me. But whatever, Snyder caused the mess in Iraq...
No, this was the follow up article after Snyder caught shit tons of flack for this encounter. This wasn't some "misunderstanding" that happened. This was Dan Snyder bullying the competing stations. See example below.

The King of Pay-to-Play Broadcasting: George Michael was ahead of his time. - Washington City Paper

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There were victims in the schemes Michael and Snyder worked out, too. Only one network affiliate didn’t follow Michael’s lead and become a “media partner” with Snyder: WJLA-7.

Snyder punished the station for not going along with the system he’d set up. Beginning with newscasts in the 2000 training camp, while Michael and sportscasters from WTTG and WUSA were allowed to broadcast their live shots from inside Redskins Park, WJLA folks were banished from the team’s headquarters.

“We spent the season shooting in the Redskins Park parking lot,” recalls former WJLA sportscaster Rene Knott. “Those were the days.”

You act like this is the first time he's shit on the opposing media firms that didn't hand over money to him. No, there is no misunderstanding. It was WJLA (notified by her husband) that came to the Redskins to do the story, and he banned them and got his crew in to cover the story.

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Luhn said he asked Stephanie Jojokian, the cheerleaders' director, whether WJLA could interview Kristin Edick and her husband afterward, outside the stadium or even at a restaurant.

"She could do that, but she'll no longer be a Redskins cheerleader," Luhn recalls Jojokian saying. "She is contractually obligated to the Redskins."
That doesn't sound like a misunderstanding. That sounds like a person directed by a PR department (and most likely Synder doing).


I guess many of these other things listed up on this article are "misunderstandings" as well?

The Cranky Redskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder - Washington City Paper


Listen, let's not go that "But whatever, Snyder caused the mess in Iraq..." route. It's petty, much like Danny boy is. I don't blame Dan for anything that he's isn't responsible for. I don't blame Danny for the world being the way it is or anything outside his realm. I hold people accountable based on their actions and so far, he's failed miserably and continues down that same path.

As I said before, I'm not as upset at this move as some of his others, but considering his standing in the community/media, it was best to not say anything. That is the best thing Danny boy can do at this point. If he wants to make a name for himself, how about he ship that jet over to japan loaded with supplies and crews to help with the search for missing people. Now THAT is something I want to see from Dan, and something I'll applaud. You have to wonder why in the hell did he hire Tony Wyllie because these latest PR moves have been horrible. Oh yeah, so he can have somebody else to blame for his blunders.

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Old 03-17-2011, 11:10 AM   #4
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Post-Gazette.com - Pittsburgh Steelers
Dallas Cowboys News - Sports News for Dallas, Texas - SportsDayDFW
Philadelphia Eagles

They have a Cowboys, Mavericks, Stars, etc sections under their sports. Is that really any different than the WaPO having a Redskins Insider portion of their sports? (same with philly) Take in mind, I do not know if the DMN or Philly.com has a contract with their teams or not. Would it be fine if the WaPo had subsections like they do?
The Washington Post has a Redskins news section, just like the Gazette, DMN, and Philly.com have for their teams. But this isn't about that section of the paper. It's about the blogs and the video webcasts. Philly.com has Birds Eye View and the Gazette has Blog and Gold.

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I'm sorry, did you just really compare JKC to Snyder? Cooke was beloved by the fans because of his good nature (may have been a ass to his family) and left a good portion of his inheritance to his foundation to help kids with scholarships. Just curious, do you see Snyder doing such a thing? Yeah, neither do I so lets not compare apples to oranges. You mentioned a TV show. I think that's a bit different than a newspaper blog. Wouldn't you agree? To answer your question, if JKC had done the things that Snyder has, he'd definitely be considered a punk ass bitch.
First of all, I said John Kent Cooke, not Jack. And secondly, in today's era a Sunday night TV show on local news is not much different from a daily blog and video webcast in a newspaper. It's kind of funny though it's ok to be an ass to your family, it seems.

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So because a writer states a asinine opinion on something, that invalidates anything else he writes? Really? I think his stupidity in calling Shanahan racist has absolutely no bearing on his account with Dan Snyder. The fact you are playing the straw man bit doesn't bode well your retort.
Fine


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Bud Selig isn't looked at as a owner. He's a commissioner. I said owners. Name me one other owner that has the type of PR problem that Sndyer has with the media. Selig will also go down as MLBs worst commissioner ever. Not something I would hang my hat on.
Donald Sterling? Either way, Snyder's problem is due to as much to public ignorance than anything else, in my opinion.


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I'm sure there are tons we haven't heard about. Do you read McKenna's work? The man clearly has a agenda, but his articles are informative and backed up with fact.
Not always fact, or it's not always entirely factual. But that's another debate for another day-which I've already had

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No, this was the follow up article after Snyder caught shit tons of flack for this encounter. This wasn't some "misunderstanding" that happened. This was Dan Snyder bullying the competing stations. See example below.

The King of Pay-to-Play Broadcasting: George Michael was ahead of his time. - Washington City Paper

You act like this is the first time he's shit on the opposing media firms that didn't hand over money to him. No, there is no misunderstanding. It was WJLA (notified by her husband) that came to the Redskins to do the story, and he banned them and got his crew in to cover the story.

That doesn't sound like a misunderstanding. That sounds like a person directed by a PR department (and most likely Synder doing).

I guess many of these other things listed up on this article are "misunderstandings" as well?
Fine...but I've been that person (not Rene Knott, mind you) reporting from the parking lot..and it was long before Snyder stepped foot in Redskins Park

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Listen, let's not go that "But whatever, Snyder caused the mess in Iraq..." route. It's petty, much like Danny boy is. I don't blame Dan for anything that he's isn't responsible for. I don't blame Danny for the world being the way it is or anything outside his realm. I hold people accountable based on their actions and so far, he's failed miserably and continues down that same path.

As I said before, I'm not as upset at this move as some of his others, but considering his standing in the community/media, it was best to not say anything. That is the best thing Danny boy can do at this point. If he wants to make a name for himself, how about he ship that jet over to japan loaded with supplies and crews to help with the search for missing people. Now THAT is something I want to see from Dan, and something I'll applaud. You have to wonder why in the hell did he hire Tony Wyllie because these latest PR moves have been horrible. Oh yeah, so he can have somebody else to blame for his blunders.
Send supplies? Like when he did this?

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SS, I understand that other teams do this and it's their right to protect their labels and product. I get that, I really do.

However, I also read that the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles all have media outlets that have similar blogs or sections in their coverage.


Let's be honest. This boils down to Dan Snyder being a punk ass bitch. He's hated the WaPO since he's taken over because he can't stand criticism. Don't believe me? Read this reporters experience with Dan Snyder first hand. Appalling.

Feinstein On The Brink


You don't think this isn't about Danny boy's beef with the WaPO because they've killed him in the papers? You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

I'm sorry, I certainly don't agree with the assessment that Dan Snyder's actions are overblown. Why is it you don't hear a single issue with other owners and the media? I can tell you why. Because most of the other owners are smart enough not to fight with the very people who are covering you.



It's funny though. Dan sure as hell didn't have a problem stealing somebody else name for profit.

Dan Snyder vs. the Kennedys: It Has Hooters and Cigar-Bar Access, But Should it Have RFK's Initials? - Washington City Paper



Let's not forget this gem. Threatening to fire a cheerleader if her husband talked to a competing media outlet. Overblown? ...lol No, his actions speak to his character.
Redskins owner apologizes over TV dispute involving cheerleader


No. **** Dan Snyder. He'll never atone for the shit he's done to the team. The only way he has a chance if he stays the **** out of the public eye and not speak at all unless it's a charity events. I don't want to hear a single word from this man unless it's "I'm selling the team".
right there with you, i am so tired of people defending this guy. the reason so many fans dislike him is because of his actions and his words. it's just weird to me that there are actually supporters of dan snyder, and vinny cerratto for that matter as well. i can see not hating the guy, but for people to back what he does and try to defend him blows my mind. he is a bad person, who either never has or refuses to learn from his mistakes. and he continually tries to control the media and the image they portray of him.
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right there with you, i am so tired of people defending this guy. the reason so many fans dislike him is because of his actions and his words. it's just weird to me that there are actually supporters of dan snyder, and vinny cerratto for that matter as well. i can see not hating the guy, but for people to back what he does and try to defend him blows my mind. he is a bad person, who either never has or refuses to learn from his mistakes. and he continually tries to control the media and the image they portray of him.
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Danny Boy is not worthy of hate. Save "hatred" for folks like serial killers, child molesters, the "East Coast Rapist", Bernie Madoff and folks who harm people or ruin other people's lives.

Danny Boy has run a piss-poor operation out of Ashburn VA for the last 10 years or so. He has fired a bunch of people on his whim and he has sued people just because he can. That may make him difficult to tolerate, but he is not worthy of hatred.

Step back and take a deep breath here...

And no one here can possibly accuse me of being an apologist or a supporter of Danny Boy Snyder.
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right there with you, i am so tired of people defending this guy. the reason so many fans dislike him is because of his actions and his words. it's just weird to me that there are actually supporters of dan snyder, and vinny cerratto for that matter as well. i can see not hating the guy, but for people to back what he does and try to defend him blows my mind. he is a bad person, who either never has or refuses to learn from his mistakes. and he continually tries to control the media and the image they portray of him.
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Some of you express your hatred for the owner but still tune into the televised games and rock the official merchandise. If you knew anything about business you would not support an enitity owned/operated by someone you despise so much. Either;

a). boycott anything Snyder gets paid on

or

b). keep shooting the B&G magic into your veins and smile at the dope man....quietly.
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