Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2)

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Barnes as a starter over Hall?
Serioulsly?
The jury is waaaaaay out on Barnes.

This is his 3rd year with the team, he showed potential last year. He must be given a chance, I like the fact that he is a smart player (high score on the Wonderlic test) and is not afraid to tackle unlike Hall.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...the-wonderlic/

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by 44ever

I didn't hear anyone complaining about our season opener.

– DeAngelo Hall returned a fumble for a score and Graham Gano kicked two field goals, as the Redskins held on to edge the Cowboys, 13-7.

We can all thank D.Hall for the only win of the season that actually counted for anything. (Beating the Cowboys)

NO 44! Hall haters don't care if he beat Dallas remember?????????

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

NO 44! Hall haters don't care if he beat Dallas remember?????????

And Gano had 3 game winning FG's.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

NO 44! Hall haters don't care if he beat Dallas remember?????????

Wasn't Hall the only player to allow a TD pass in that game?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Wasn't Hall the only player to allow a TD pass in that game?

Yes to Austin but he still made the biggest play of the game..

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yes to Austin but he still made the biggest play of the game..

He did do that.

Surely though, the heroics in that game belong to Brian Orakpo. If any one player beat Dallas in that game, it was 98.

[44ever]

I'd be more concerned with our TEAM EFFICIENCY RATINGS - 20F-ing7th (27th)
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2010 TEAM EFFICIENCY RATINGS

[GTripp0012]

This is why I believe people need to stop making excuses for Hall:

He signed with us around his 25th birthday, and even though he was jettisoned from Oakland, he was a good pickup for the rest of that season (though Vinny cut valuable depth at the same position to get him), because he played really well and Smoot was a big problem. It's not Hall's fault that Vinny overpaid the market for Hall.

But he turned 26 in 2009 and 27 in 2010. And he wasn't good either year. Theoretically, however, those should have been his best years in coverage. If Hall was capable of playing with the focus he showed in the 2008 season for us, he might have justified his contract value. But this guy was a first round talent who two organizations gave up on. The fact that Vinny paid out and Hall went back to being the player he always was shouldn't have come as a surprise.

Either that's a character flaw in Hall - he can only focus on the task at hand when money is an issue, or it's not a flaw in character, but that his lack of game to game focus is more of who DeAngelo Hall is -- and has always been.

And neither line of reasoning is going to save the Redskins pass defense next year. That will take drastic measures: separating from the poor performers and aggressively trying to replace them with young talent in the front seven. Of course, that would all come at the expense of the offense, which is why I believe Hall will uphold the status quo for one more season.

[Swarley]

I for one, saw what I expected from dhall in pass coverage this year. An up and down player. I'm fine with it though because we clearly are starving for players on D that can take anything the other way.

What I didnt expect from Dhall was just how much his tackling improved. He made a ton of key tackles and for the most part was one of the better tacklers on our team. Crazy that I'm saying that about DeAngelo.... lol

[bedlamVR]

I think the hate for D Hall is way out of hand . He is what he always has been a gambler . The problem is last season is the D as a whole was not clicking . If you have a gambler like Hall out there you need a mop up FS which is what we were missing so Halls misses don't kill you .

The reason I think we should resign Rogers is because he is a decent complement to Hall .

Barnes - I really don't understand the love . He is a 3rd year player who got to start 4 games in his career all at FS . Tyron was better .

[KLHJ2]

DeAngelo Hall must be on that new drug called "Charlie Sheen" because he sure does "win" a lot for a person who contains so much suck.

NFL Player "Win"
Starter "Win"
Funble Recovery "Win"
Touchdowns "Win"
Interceptions "Win"
Pro Bowl "Win"
Pro Bowl MVP "Win"
Extra Pro Bowl Cash "Win"
Lucrative Contract "Win"
Winning "Win"

Must make you hate your life huh?

[SmootSmack]

I'll just restate what I've said in the past...Rogers is like the good friend you go to the movies and dinner with and always have a good time but you hope for something more. He'll tease you and make you think maybe this is the night, but you go home thinking well that was nice, but I feel a bit unsatisfied. Hall is Champagne with the fishnet stockings, 6 inch high-heels, and possibly a missing tooth on the corner of 14th and T Streets, NW at 1am. You may go home with a disease, but at least you know you'll get something out of Champagne

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'll just restate what I've said in the past...Rogers is like the good friend you go to the movies and dinner with and always have a good time but you hope for something more. He'll tease you and make you think maybe this is the night, but you go home thinking well that was nice, but I feel a bit unsatisfied. Hall is Champagne with the fishnet stockings, 6 inch high-heels, and possibly a missing tooth on the corner of 14th and T Streets, NW at 1am. You may go home with a disease, but at least you know you'll get something out of Champagne

Bad experiences?

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'll just restate what I've said in the past...Rogers is like the good friend you go to the movies and dinner with and always have a good time but you hope for something more. He'll tease you and make you think maybe this is the night, but you go home thinking well that was nice, but I feel a bit unsatisfied. Hall is Champagne with the fishnet stockings, 6 inch high-heels, and possibly a missing tooth on the corner of 14th and T Streets, NW at 1am. You may go home with a disease, but at least you know you'll get something out of Champagne

Thats just wrong man.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Angry

DeAngelo Hall must be on that new drug called "Charlie Sheen" because he sure does "win" a lot for a person who contains so much suck.

NFL Player "Win"
Starter "Win"
Funble Recovery "Win"
Touchdowns "Win"
Interceptions "Win"
Pro Bowl "Win"
Pro Bowl MVP "Win"
Extra Pro Bowl Cash "Win"
Lucrative Contract "Win"
Winning "Win"

Must make you hate your life huh?

You need to replace Win with Luck in order to make those previous statements true.