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Old 03-28-2011, 11:33 AM   #1
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Re: You're the GM - What do you do?

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The thing is this team is better than last year's team that went 6-10. We will not be anywhere near Andrew Luck which is 1st overall. The second ranked QB in Matt Barkley will be gone higher than he should a la Blaine Gabbert, only even more because of his USC experience. Not to mention I don't like him at all, and therefore in my opinion no Jake Locker is not a waste of a pick.

Moss likely won't stay, and if you're correct than I don't see why we can't target another free agent. Pudz is a longshot as I stated, but Barrett Ruud is more likely to go than he is to stay. He was neglected last year by management in a contract extension when they decided to give it to Donald Penn instead. Not to mention he had a terrible year by his standards. I will not be surprised if he's a target for Bruce Allen this off-season.

Okay so that top 15 pick which speaks for itself and can be anywhere from 1-15 could possibly be the 16th or 17th pick? Would you like me to have said top 17 pick?
I disagree that it is a better team. I believe you to be overlooking a few things.

London Fletcher showed signs of diminishing skills last year and I
expect it to continue on this year.

I think you overlook how important both Rogers and Buchanon are to our secondary. The majority of the negative plays go towards Hall/Barnes. There is nobody on our roster that can replace either one.

Whichever center (Rabach/Barnes) plays will be absolute dogshit, even more so than last year due to either age or inexperience. On that note, the same thing applies to Phillip Daniels.

I believe Anthony Bryant to not only not be adequate (2 solo tackles in 6 games all last season) but I have an inkling that he will get injured anyways being so heavy (380 lbs).

I also do not believe Barrett Rudd to be an upgrade over McIntosh, especially considering he is switching systems.

Atogwe is a huge upgrade, but I wouldn't expect him to be a superstar, there must be a reason he was not retained.

Torain/Williams I believe will be worse than last year. Teams will not underestimate them as much and they will have more wear/tear (torain especially).

Moss will not be back, and Davis is a downgrade over Cooley (who we would not get a high second for). Kelly probably won't even make the team much less start.

Quinn I believe to be overrated.

I think that teams will catch onto Grossman/Shannhans system this year, and we will not be able to catch teams by surprise (we started 4-3). Reminds me of what happened with Zorn when he started 6-2 with a bad team and then the next two years were junk once people saw tape.

And yes I believe there to be a significant difference between 17 and a "top 15 pick". "Top 15" talent in my mind are supposed to be "can't miss talents." There are normally not actually 15 of them, its just those "top 15" talents should all be gone by 15. Its not safe at 14/15 that you will get one, so the 17 pick is not something to be overexcited about.
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:39 PM   #2
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I disagree that it is a better team. I believe you to be overlooking a few things.

London Fletcher showed signs of diminishing skills last year and I
expect it to continue on this year.
Agreed right here, but London Fletcher > H.B. Blades/Perry Riley/Rockey MacIntosh

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I think you overlook how important both Rogers and Buchanon are to our secondary. The majority of the negative plays go towards Hall/Barnes. There is nobody on our roster that can replace either one.
Rogers will be 30 years old and will want Atogwe money. He's gone, there's no chance he's back. He's been with this team and has no desire to change the culture into a winning one, and if you don't believe that just go watch how mediocre he has been the past two years. Not to mention we need more playmakers, nevermind this whole I should be accepted for not catching anything thrown my way.
Also, Buchanon is a plug.. Don't try that lol. Barnes is the best option we have, local Maryland boy who wants to be given a chance. I like his upside.

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Whichever center (Rabach/Barnes) plays will be absolute dogshit, even more so than last year due to either age or inexperience. On that note, the same thing applies to Phillip Daniels.
Rabach is the definition of dogshit, but there are no better options. Saying Barnes couldn't play because of inexperience is just incorrect. Mack on Cleveland jumped right into that line like a pro bowler, you really do never know. As for Daniels, yeah he's old and wouldn't play anymore than 1 down or so anyways similar to last year. Obviously this position would be part of a rotation.

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I believe Anthony Bryant to not only not be adequate (2 solo tackles in 6 games all last season) but I have an inkling that he will get injured anyways being so heavy (380 lbs).
Did you not see the push he gave that defense when Ma'ake went down? Kemo was the worst excuse for a NT I've ever seen. He's better than nothing. Also worth noting that I chose to draft Ellis from Hampton, who is widely viewed as one of the best NTs in the draft. A weak draft for NTs.. but one of the best none the less.

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I also do not believe Barrett Rudd to be an upgrade over McIntosh, especially considering he is switching systems.

Atogwe is a huge upgrade, but I wouldn't expect him to be a superstar, there must be a reason he was not retained.
Barrett Ruud is in a league of his own compared to Rocky.. Be realistic about that one. Rocky wants to get out of this football team that he's seen struggle for so long, Ruud would be looking for a fresh start and would instantly bring a legitimate leader to our defense alongside Fletch.

Interesting you choose to say Atogwe can't be good since he was left go. One of my good friends is the biggest rams fan you'll ever find (His basement walls are covered in Rams paintings) and he was telling me how ridiculous it was that they let him go, not only because he was a terrific leader. But had just turned 30 years old. You want to re-sign Carlos? Well here's his replacement, only obviously not at Corner. The biggest difference is that he can actually make plays and add a whole new dimension to Landry's game.

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Torain/Williams I believe will be worse than last year. Teams will not underestimate them as much and they will have more wear/tear (torain especially).

Moss will not be back, and Davis is a downgrade over Cooley (who we would not get a high second for). Kelly probably won't even make the team much less start.
Oh please, If this was the case the Buccaneers wouldn't have let Torain run all over them... They were in a playoff push playing the most important game of the season.
Davis is a downgrade, but Cooley has done enough. Time to get younger and give Davis an opportunity.
Kelly probably won't make the team? No, but will he be given a chance? Yes. Was he one of the most dominant WRs in Sooners history? Yep, he has talent. And he deserves one more chance. Are you suggesting we get Roydell Williams back so he can help us "Win"?

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I think that teams will catch onto Grossman/Shannhans system this year, and we will not be able to catch teams by surprise (we started 4-3). Reminds me of what happened with Zorn when he started 6-2 with a bad team and then the next two years were junk once people saw tape.
Yep you're right, history absolutely will repeat itself under no circumstances. Because Zorn was unsuccessful in creating a winner, Shanahan will too, thus making our team go 2-14... Oh wait..........

*I apologize for this cluster**** of a post, I just got home and yeah lol
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