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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Tom Brady to me is the best QB in the league and has been since 01 he puts up great numbers and never losses, maybe the best QB of all time as I've said multiple times

Hands down, Peyton Manning is the best QB that will have ever played this game before it's all said and done. I think you give Brady a little too much credit for those Super Bowls


Brady has had a lot of luck and a lot of help along the way.

Injury to Bledsoe?
Tuck rule?
One of the most reliable kickers in NFL history(kasay) kicking it out of bounds on kick off at the end of the game?
Adam Vinatieri probably has won more games for the Patriots than Brady.
A top ten defense each year they are in the Super Bowl (ranked either 1 or 2 in points allowed) save for maybe one year.


Manning started with nothing. Brady was drafted on to a team that had talent still from it's Super Bowl appearance 4 years earlier.

Brady will NEVER catch Manning's numbers. If you were to take Manning and switch him and Tom Brady, Manning could have won 3-4 more Super Bowls. It's unfortunate he's had to carry that team for so long, but you aren't going anywhere unless you have a defense come playoff time.

Brady is good and somebody I would want on my team, but the guy is a lucky mother ****er too. He's got a rabbit foot stuck up his ass no doubt.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Hands down, Peyton Manning is the best QB that will have ever played this game before it's all said and done. I think you give Brady a little too much credit for those Super Bowls


Brady has had a lot of luck and a lot of help along the way.

Injury to Bledsoe?
Tuck rule?
One of the most reliable kickers in NFL history(kasay) kicking it out of bounds on kick off at the end of the game?
Adam Vinatieri probably has won more games for the Patriots than Brady.
A top ten defense each year they are in the Super Bowl (ranked either 1 or 2 in points allowed) save for maybe one year.


Manning started with nothing. Brady was drafted on to a team that had talent still from it's Super Bowl appearance 4 years earlier.

Brady will NEVER catch Manning's numbers. If you were to take Manning and switch him and Tom Brady, Manning could have won 3-4 more Super Bowls. It's unfortunate he's had to carry that team for so long, but you aren't going anywhere unless you have a defense come playoff time.

Brady is good and somebody I would want on my team, but the guy is a lucky mother ****er too. He's got a rabbit foot stuck up his ass no doubt.

They're both great QB's but Manning has had two potential Hall of Fame wr's for a good portion of his career. For the most part, Brady has had a bunch of journeymen wr's. When he had a truly great wr you saw what type of numbers he put up. For my money I'm taking Tom Brady simply cause he doesn't turn the ball over as much.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

They're both great QB's but Manning has had two potential Hall of Fame wr's for a good portion of his career. For the most part, Brady has had a bunch of journeymen wr's. When he had a truly great wr you saw what type of numbers he put up. For my money I'm taking Tom Brady simply cause he doesn't turn the ball over as much.

Brady has had an elite defense and a HOF coach. Super Bowl wins aside, I think Manning and Brady have been pretty equal and honestly I don't see the need to declare one better than the other. Each of them have had proven their greatness and each of them have overcome a lot of obstacles (Brady - lack of WRs, Manning - lack of a defense, etc., etc.).

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Brady has had an elite defense and a HOF coach. Super Bowl wins aside, I think Manning and Brady have been pretty equal and honestly I don't see the need to declare one better than the other. Each of them have had proven their greatness and each of them have overcome a lot of obstacles (Brady - lack of WRs, Manning - lack of a defense, etc., etc.).

Preach

[celts32]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

They're both great QB's but Manning has had two potential Hall of Fame wr's for a good portion of his career. For the most part, Brady has had a bunch of journeymen wr's. When he had a truly great wr you saw what type of numbers he put up. For my money I'm taking Tom Brady simply cause he doesn't turn the ball over as much.

IMO Manning makes those WR's look better then they really are. He makes everyone around him better. Arguing Brady vs Manning is like deciding between a NY Strip and a Filet...both are great...just comes down to personal preference. I will take the NY Strip & Manning.