Was Jamie Dukes out of line on Ryan Mallett?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Most college kids experiment with drugs so I really would not hold this stuff against him.

Define most. Because the schools I went to, I saw some of that stuff going on but for the most part, the majority weren't involved in that scene. Booze and pot were all over the place for sure, but that's a different animal.

His use is a concern and a red flag, especially if the rumors are true that he was doing a bit more than just "experimenting".

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Define most. Because the schools I went to, I saw some of that stuff going on but for the most part, the majority weren't involved in that scene. Booze and pot were all over the place for sure, but that's a different animal.

His use is a concern and a red flag, especially if the rumors are true that he was doing a bit more than just "experimenting".

I agree...I went to a school that at one time made Playboy's list of top party schools and I never once saw anyone doing lines of coke. I am sure there were people here and there doing it and I knew a couple people in my fraternity who did but not enough to say most. Plenty of my friends smoked weed and we all drank heavily but coke is different. Definite red flag...not sure I could pull the trigger on Mallet if this stuff is true.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by celts32

I agree...I went to a school that at one time made Playboy's list of top party schools and I never once saw anyone doing lines of coke. I am sure there were people here and there doing it and I knew a couple people in my fraternity who did but not enough to say most. Plenty of my friends smoked weed and we all drank heavily but coke is different. Definite red flag...not sure I could pull the trigger on Mallet if this stuff is true.

How is coke different than weed or drinking til you blackout? Cause drinking and smoking weed are more socially acceptable by society?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How is coke different than weed or drinking til you blackout? Cause drinking and smoking weed are more socially acceptable by society?

Maybe it's just me, but taking a hit off a joint at a party it not the same as regularly doing lines by yourself and with a couple of other teammates in the locker room bathroom between practice sessions...but maybe that's just me

But regardless, I just hope for his sake he is clean and stays clean and has a successful NFL career

[celts32]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How is coke different than weed or drinking til you blackout? Cause drinking and smoking weed are more socially acceptable by society?

I am not an expert on drugs so I don't want to get to far into this. weed is known as more of a gateway drug. Lots of people dabble with it in college and most give it up when they enter the real world. In many instances people taking coke are advanced drug users who are heading down the wrong path.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by celts32

I am not an expert on drugs so I don't want to get to far into this. weed is known as more of a gateway drug. Lots of people dabble with it in college and most give it up when they enter the real world. In many instances people taking coke are advanced drug users who are heading down the wrong path.

80% of hard drug users started out with weed. It is a gateway drug alright, to a possible personal hell.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

80% of hard drug users started out with weed. It is a gateway drug alright, to a possible personal hell.

And those same people probably tried alcohol first but that doesn't make beer a "gateway."

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How is coke different than weed or drinking til you blackout? Cause drinking and smoking weed are more socially acceptable by society?

Coke is a very physically addictive drug. Plus see the Len Bias story about what happens when you do too much coke. Nobody has died from a Pot overdose.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Coke is a very physically addictive drug. Plus see the Len Bias story about what happens when you do too much coke. Nobody has died from a Pot overdose.

TOTALLY...do Coke for a while, you die.
Do Weed for a while, you act like Tommy Chong.........

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Hog1

TOTALLY...do Coke for a while, you die.
Do Weed for a while, you act like Tommy Chong.........

not totally true

and weed is an addictive drug as well. Ive know 2 people who sought help in a rehab-like way for merry juana. moderation folks

Regardless, if Mallet is using coke, probably shouldnt move him up our draft board

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

not totally true

and weed is an addictive drug as well. Ive know 2 people who sought help in a rehab-like way for merry juana. moderation folks

Regardless, if Mallet is using coke, probably shouldnt move him up our draft board

The two are incomparible both in physical and mental effects on the body. Trying to substantiate such because you know a couple of potheads who needed some 12-step work to shake it..........is silly.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

not totally true

and weed is an addictive drug as well. Ive know 2 people who sought help in a rehab-like way for merry juana. moderation folks

Regardless, if Mallet is using coke, probably shouldnt move him up our draft board

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[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

and weed is an addictive drug as well. Ive know 2 people who sought help in a rehab-like way for merry juana. moderation folks

This statement is somewhat incorrect. I'm 5th year college student, majoring in Psychology. I have taken lot of classes regarding disorders including drug addictions. I have done extensive research on marijuana itself for my paper; there are some studies that claimed marijuana as an addictive drug, however there were some biases or outdated information in those articles.. While the current research with updated information claimed that the level of addiction for marijuana depends sorely on individuals. In other words, people will experience vary consequences of smoking marijuana.

Edit: Don't take us wrong, Chico. We are not downgrading your experience with marijuana. It must be difficult for you to watch your friends going in rehab, as it was not fun for me to watch people going through that neither. I'm just saying that smoking marijuana does not automatically makes you to be addict to it.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Coke is a very physically addictive drug. Plus see the Len Bias story about what happens when you do too much coke. Nobody has died from a Pot overdose.

When you see comparisons being made to Ryan Leaf, it's more than just a red flag. Reports have indicated Mallett never failed a drug test, so stretching his indulgence to the point of addiction would seem rare under those circumstances.

To his credit he did come clean with the teams that have interviewed him though not always quite as candid with the media. He's a young man with plenty of time to straighten his life.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

When you see comparisons being made to Ryan Leaf, it's more than just a red flag. Reports have indicated Mallett never failed a drug test, so stretching his indulgence to the point of addiction would seem rare under those circumstances.

To his credit he did come clean with the teams that have interviewed him though not always quite as candid with the media. He's a young man with plenty of time to straighten his life.

And this story may well have a happy ending, but the prospect of hanging multiple million around his neck with even.....the possibility of problems down the road is a hefty consideration............