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Kyle Shanahan's 38 69.09%
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Old 04-24-2011, 08:32 PM   #1
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

Does John Beck have a 'guy'?
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Old 04-24-2011, 09:00 PM   #2
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

Nothing really legit, that I know of, is linking the Redskins to Mallet. And, I haven't warmed up to him to the point I'd want to draft him
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:32 PM   #3
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

Mie needs to choose the QB! Kyle hasn't earned the right. He needs to first prove that he can win with the HC's guy before getting final say.
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:51 PM   #4
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30Gut, I haven't heard anything to suggest they outright don't like anybody. At this point, I think they much pretty know what they want to do (subject, of course, to what others above them do), I don't think Mallet is in their plans...but what do I know? I was convinced there's no way they'd draft Laron Landry either
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:47 AM   #5
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

I'd say neither cause neither is worth taking in the first two rounds. Also both Mike and Kyle might not be here is this team has a poor record next year.
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Old 04-25-2011, 08:59 AM   #6
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

I would hope Mike would defer to Kyle since it's his offense and he calls the plays.
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:22 AM   #7
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

I would hope that Kyle listens to the wisdom of his more experienced father who has worked with John Elway, turned Jake Plummer into something semi-productive for a time, and led Jay Cutler to his best season as a pro.

I also hope that Mike is not so stubborn as to ignore the opinion of his young offensive coordinator who led the Texans to a top offensive season a few years ago.

Basically I want them to see the value in either QB, or any QB, and work together to figure out how to tailor their offense and their system to that QB's particular strengths. Flexibility is required because the draft will dictate which QB we end up with, to a large extent. If we end up with Locker, I hope Mike and Kyle both design plenty of plays to take advantage of his mobility and throwing on the run. If we end up with Dalton I hope we install some quick hitting plays to take advantage of the guy's intelligence.
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:51 AM   #8
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

Excellent post Schneed
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Old 04-25-2011, 05:58 PM   #9
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

Kyle's choice. The O will be more productive running his offensive scheme with a bit more emphasis on the power run game. The 90s Broncos O with the heavy ZB/PA scheme is not as effective as it was back then.

MS needs to be a HC, not an OC/HC.
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:54 AM   #10
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

Have over 72% of the people here forgotten about a man by the name of Daniel Snyder? Dan Snyder hired Mike Shanahan to run the football side of the business. Mike was hired based on his extensive experience and good track record. Snyder did not hire Kyle Shanahan to do anything. He allowed Mike Shanahan to hire his son.

Drafting a first round QB is a big decision for an NFL franchise. I don't think that it would be acceptable to Dan Snyder for Mike Shanahan to allow anyone else to make that decision for him. And I don't think that MS is the kind of man who would do that, anyway.

Mike had better be 100% behind any QB the Redskins draft if he wants to keep his job. Try to imagine this happening: "Dan, I know Whatshisname sucks but he wasn't my choice. Kyle kept whining about wanting to pick our next QB and he's such a good son I let him do it. I would've picked Whozit". Yeah, that'll work.

By the way, how could anyone get the idea that Kyle will be Mike's successor? Mike won't determine that. Dan Snyder will determine that.
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:54 AM   #11
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

I agree as well Schneed. And if we draft Kaepernick we will need to design both of those kinds of plays. Lol.

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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

This is a cool thread because it forces everyone to think about the dynamics in the organizational structure.

First to KI Skins Fan, any good leader that decides to delegate a decision like in this hypothetical example, that leader then stands behind the decision to his superiors. If Mike delegated the decision to Kyle, the decision then becomes Mike's by extension, and he has to support it or be held accountable. He can't distance himself from it. And he wouldn't. Mike is a good leader, he understands that.

I also don't think Mike would truly delegate a decision that way though. He would listen to Kyle and all of his other coaches state their cases, but ultimately he'll make the decision. Kyle is going to offer some great perspective and insight, especially from an Xs and Os point of view. But Mike has so much more experience, including the experience of coaching Steve Young and John Elway. Kyle has never gotten to coach players of that caliber. So when Mike sits down with Locker, Dalton, and any other QB for an interview or a study session, he'll use his experience to help pick up on the personal characteristics that made Elway and Young such good leaders.

So many dynamics involved here. Technical knowledge of Xs and Os vs experience. Boots on the ground style involvement with players vs overall strategic direction of the franchise. Finding a player that fits the system vs finding a player to which you can tailor a better system. Skill vs leadership and moxie.

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Old 04-25-2011, 10:44 AM   #13
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

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This is a cool thread because it forces everyone to think about the dynamics in the organizational structure.

First to KI Skins Fan, any good leader that decides to delegate a decision like in this hypothetical example, that leader then stands behind the decision to his superiors. If Mike delegated the decision to Kyle, the decision then becomes Mike's by extension, and he has to support it or be held accountable. He can't distance himself from it. And he wouldn't. Mike is a good leader, he understands that.

I also don't think Mike would truly delegate a decision that way though. He would listen to Kyle and all of his other coaches state their cases, but ultimately he'll make the decision. Kyle is going to offer some great perspective and insight, especially from an Xs and Os point of view. But Mike has so much more experience, including the experience of coaching Steve Young and John Elway. Kyle has never gotten to coach players of that caliber. So when Mike sits down with Locker, Dalton, and any other QB for an interview or a study session, he'll use his experience to help pick up on the personal characteristics that made Elway and Young such good leaders.

So many dynamics involved here. Technical knowledge of Xs and Os vs experience. Boots on the ground style involvement with players vs overall strategic direction of the franchise. Finding a player that fits the system vs finding a player to which you can tailor a better system. Skill vs leadership and moxie.

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Of course, he'll make the decision the way you say he will do it. I agree with you completely on that. I was being a bit sarcastic.

This thread doesn't make any sense to me to begin with and then to see that about 75% of those who voted think that Kyle should make the decision I find to be amazingly naive.

This whole question only comes up because of the father/son relationship involved. Otherwise, nobody would ever think that Mike should defer to his OC in making this decision. But Mike won't defer to Kyle either because this is business; it's not about whether to go miniature golfing or to the movies (oops, more sarcasm).
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Old 04-25-2011, 12:27 PM   #14
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

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Of course, he'll make the decision the way you say he will do it. I agree with you completely on that. I was being a bit sarcastic.

This thread doesn't make any sense to me to begin with and then to see that about 75% of those who voted think that Kyle should make the decision I find to be amazingly naive.

This whole question only comes up because of the father/son relationship involved. Otherwise, nobody would ever think that Mike should defer to his OC in making this decision. But Mike won't defer to Kyle either because this is business; it's not about whether to go miniature golfing or to the movies (oops, more sarcasm).
Actually I think that with this decision the HC should be very open to the ideas of the OC, father/son or not. If the OC is not comfortable with the QB, the offense will not function optimally.
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Old 04-25-2011, 12:38 PM   #15
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Re: Whose QB Should We Choose?

Dalton baby!! The next Sammy Baugh (well at least they attended the same college).
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