Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

[GusFrerotte]

I am sorry, if this kid was anything special, he would not have been on 3 teams in what 5 years? I also want a young stud to hopefully be our franchise guy for over a decade like Joey T. I realize that that will be very hard to accomplish, but Beck isn't going to get us anywhere. A major trade is in the works once the lockout is over. You have two vets in Palmer and Smith that can come in and do the job. Beck is a smokescreen for what is coming. Once the lockout is cleaned up, we will be hit with news of a monster trade or the acquisition of Smith.

[GusFrerotte]

BYU QBs have sucked post Steve Young. THe NCAA teams adjusted to the air it out style teams and BYU went down a notch since Boscoe left. BYU plays in a rather weak conference, even when they change conferences. That is why BYU QBs haven't faired well in the NFL since Young. Shoot my uncle's '82 Buckeye team beat BYU led by Young 47-17 in the '82 Holiday Bowl. I think the Bucks picked him of like 4 times, and the '82 team wasn't the best defensive wise either.

[SFREDSKIN]

I believe Matt Light and Logan Mankins are FA available.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I am sorry, if this kid was anything special, he would not have been on 3 teams in what 5 years? I also want a young stud to hopefully be our franchise guy for over a decade like Joey T. I realize that that will be very hard to accomplish, but Beck isn't going to get us anywhere. A major trade is in the works once the lockout is over. You have two vets in Palmer and Smith that can come in and do the job. Beck is a smokescreen for what is coming. Once the lockout is cleaned up, we will be hit with news of a monster trade or the acquisition of Smith.

I just felt the need to point out that apparently Joey T failed to get drafted and was forced to go to Canada because he was looked at as not being "good enough" prior to the Skins picking him up from the Torronto Argonauts. He was there for 3 yrs before the Skins hired him to be the "punt returner." It took 4 yrs before he became the starting QB.

So maybe with any luck the Skins might have something in Beck that none of us have seen yet. A QB needs to be in the right place with the right situation at the right time, or Beck might be a dud. I know what your saying and I agree with you but I would like to think MS knows what he's looking for in a QB that will do well in his system. Just because Beck has not done well in other situations doesn't mean he can't do well in this one. Remember also Bret Favre was considered a dud by the Falcons and traded him away to the Packers.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I just felt the need to point out that apparently Joey T failed to get drafted and was forced to go to Canada because he was looked at as not being "good enough" prior to the Skins picking him up from the Torronto Argonauts. He was there for 3 yrs before the Skins hired him to be the "punt returner." It took 4 yrs before he became the starting QB.

So maybe with any luck the Skins might have something in Beck that none of us have seen yet. A QB needs to be in the right place with the right situation at the right time, or Beck might be a dud. I know what your saying and I agree with you but I would like to think MS knows what he's looking for in a QB that will do well in his system. Just because Beck has not done well in other situations doesn't mean he can't do well in this one. Remember also Bret Favre was considered a dud by the Falcons and traded him away to the Packers.

I can be way off base about Beck, but he doeesn't come off likie a starter to me. I still think this is all smoke for a big move in the works.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I am sorry, if this kid was anything special, he would not have been on 3 teams in what 5 years? I also want a young stud to hopefully be our franchise guy for over a decade like Joey T. I realize that that will be very hard to accomplish, but Beck isn't going to get us anywhere. A major trade is in the works once the lockout is over. You have two vets in Palmer and Smith that can come in and do the job. Beck is a smokescreen for what is coming. Once the lockout is cleaned up, we will be hit with news of a monster trade or the acquisition of Smith.

Yeah, what type of quality QB has to go to multiple teams before finding a home? Please, like anyone has ever done anything like that.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Yeah, what type of quality QB has to go to multiple teams before finding a home? Please, like anyone has ever done anything like that.

or Rich Gannon, QB at NFL.com

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

or Rich Gannon, QB at NFL.com

Maybe we should have drafted Delvin. Apparently this Deleware is QB U.

[SBXVII]

Also....

``You're not going to address everything through the draft,'' Shanahan said. ``I can't share our whole game plan with you now, but we do have a plan.''

[SFREDSKIN]

OL and QB will be addressed when Free Agency starts. Maybe Beck under Shanahans tutelage can blosom, he was solid in college to be selected in the 2nd round. Another possibility is trading McNabb and fat shit for VY.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Also....

Exactly. Shanny expressed his belief in Beck's abilities since he couldn't give up a major part of the plan. He can't come out and say that we are going for Smith, Palmer, etc, as that might tip off other teams. Beck is a nice guy I am sure, but he isn't a starter.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Exactly. Shanny expressed his belief in Beck's abilities since he couldn't give up a major part of the plan. He can't come out and say that we are going for Smith, Palmer, etc, as that might tip off other teams. Beck is a nice guy I am sure, but he isn't a starter.

I mentioned this in the draft thread.....

Beck is a victim of circumstance. The very same set of circumstances that beset so many young QB's including those that teams reached for in this draft. Coming out of college his numbers were comparable to any member of the 2011 QB draft class. He was thrust into action before he was ready and it stunted his growth. The coach likes him...traded for him. It's difficult to have a difinitive opinion of a QB with only five games started as a rookie on his resume.

[SmootSmack]

Well we've talked this off-season that the Redskins do like Beck, but that doesn't mean he's their guy. I really thought they should draft a QB and then re-sign Grossman or bring in some vet like Hasselbeck for a year.

I don't know quite what they see in Beck and he's 30 years old so how patient can they be with him?

Disappointing that two years in a row they haven't taken a QB

[SFREDSKIN]

Maybe they are waiting for next year when Luck and Barkley will be available, thinking they have a chance at either one.

[SBXVII]

I'm not sure what ones are restricted but here's the list...
2011 NFL Free Agents

Hasselbeck
Smith
Grossman

seem like the best deals of them all, and out of the 3 I'd rather go younger with Smith but he will take time to learn the system where as Grossman already knows the system. So I'd almost rather keep Grossman another year and next yr draft our future QB.