Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

[NYCskinfan82]

I think we will get a QB from FA & what we will probably do is based on how long this hold out/stand off last sign the QB a design certain plays for him until he picks up the system.

[GTripp0012]

Really hoping the Dolphins are foolish enough to take McNabb for Chad Henne after the lockout ends, and still give up a late round pick in the deal.

The fact that the Dolphins didn't draft anyone at the QB position suggests this is a pipe dream though.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Really hoping the Dolphins are foolish enough to take McNabb for Chad Henne after the lockout ends, and still give up a late round pick in the deal.

The fact that the Dolphins didn't draft anyone at the QB position suggests this is a pipe dream though.

I doubt they're that foolish. Miami isn't giving up on Henne yet. And I don't see anyone giving away a draft pick for a guy who might get cut.

[skinsfaninok]

^ good luck for harbaugh I think SF will finish with 7 or less wins again next year.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

^ good luck for harbaugh I think SF will finish with 7 or less wins again next year.

Playoffs. This team has a hell of a lot of talent, the OL will have another year of experience. The team is loaded and Harbaugh will lead them to the playoffs.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Playoffs. This team has a hell of a lot of talent, the OL will have another year of experience. The team is loaded and Harbaugh will lead them to the playoffs.

No chance, the rams and cards will both be better than SF. Gore is older and more injury prone, VDavis isn't a Superstar as someone else just said and they have no QB, defense wasnt anything special and Who's the star WR? Like I said 7 wins maybe

[steveo395]

We definitely need to completely rebuild. I don't know if we should start John Beck or not but he should be given a chance to compete. We shouldn't resign Santana, especially with all those receivers we drafted. The only person I would definitely resign is Rocky McIntosh. Maybe keep Carlos Rogers if he'll resign for the right price and Jamal Brown since we did nothing to help ourselves on the o-line. We need to get younger overall and it looks like this team finally realizes it with this draft.

[SirClintonPortis]

San Francisco has an elite RB(but the injury bug does like him), an elite TE, a playmaking WR, and a top tier run defense. The just need a QB and better pass D, and then they'll be riding high.

[BuckSkin]

7 wins in the NFC West ensures a home playoff game, so SF will most likely make the playoffs.

[Big C]

i think beck has a good shot to be our starter next year. former second round pick not too long ago, '07 i think, who never has really had a shot. shannahan said he was his #1 qb coming out in that draft by a large margin, and we signed him to an extension without him ever taking a snap for us. shannahan obviously really likes him and feels comfortable with our QB situation right now. im curious to see if beck could really be the guy for us, as crazy as it sounds.

[skinsfaninok]

Might as well give JB a shot who else we got

[Paintrain]

I love all of the armchair experts who have already written the eulogy on Beck's QB career. So I guess if A team (or more than one team) gives up on you or trades you then clearly you have no ability to start as a QB in the NFL, right?

I guess Drew Brees, Mike Vick, Kerry Collins, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Shaun Hill-all of whom have either been traded, released or consciously not been brought back-aren't viable NFL QBs, right? Beck may not ever be on the level of even Fitzpatrick but if Shanahan, who has made chicken salad out of chicken sh*t QBs before in Griese & Plummer, believes he can be a productive QB in his system why in May am I throwing dirt on the grave?

This could all be a smokescreen for another QB (Young comes to mind but I don't think his work ethic matches Shanny's expectations) but in the absence of such then I'm willing to see what Beck brings before giving up on him. We know Grossman is a human turnover machine so why not give Beck a shot?

And for the 'lets hold out for Andrew Luck' folks, get a clue, unless we are planning to trade our 2013 draft to get in place for the 2012 overall #1 pick it's not gonna happen.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I love all of the armchair experts who have already written the eulogy on Beck's QB career. So I guess if A team (or more than one team) gives up on you or trades you then clearly you have no ability to start as a QB in the NFL, right?

I guess Drew Brees, Mike Vick, Kerry Collins, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Shaun Hill-all of whom have either been traded, released or consciously not been brought back-aren't viable NFL QBs, right? Beck may not ever be on the level of even Fitzpatrick but if Shanahan, who has made chicken salad out of chicken sh*t QBs before in Griese & Plummer, believes he can be a productive QB in his system why in May am I throwing dirt on the grave?

This could all be a smokescreen for another QB (Young comes to mind but I don't think his work ethic matches Shanny's expectations) but in the absence of such then I'm willing to see what Beck brings before giving up on him. We know Grossman is a human turnover machine so why not give Beck a shot?

And for the 'lets hold out for Andrew Luck' folks, get a clue, unless we are planning to trade our 2013 draft to get in place for the 2012 overall #1 pick it's not gonna happen.

You make excellent points Paintrain. Over the years I've witnessed some of the best QB's the NFL has seen get bounced around only to find great success in a place that fit their talents.

I saw Johnny Unitas, unwanted in Pittsburgh HOF..Jim Plunkett traded out of NE Super Bowl in LA. Rich Gannon, journeyman, Minnesota, [twice] Redskins, Super Bowl in La. Brad Johnson traded out of Minnesota to Redskins, on to Tampa Bay, Super Bowl. The list is so long it's impossible to begin to name them all. All to often some people are quick to write off players [especially QB's] when they don't have success early in their careers. Unless you're one of the exceptional ones the position can take years to master.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

You make excellent points Paintrain. Over the years I've witnessed some of the best QB's the NFL has seen get bounced around only to find great success in a place that fit their talents.

I saw Johnny Unitas, unwanted in Pittsburgh HOF..Jim Plunkett traded out of NE Super Bowl in LA. Rich Gannon, journeyman, Minnesota, [twice] Redskins, Super Bowl in La. Brad Johnson traded out of Minnesota to Redskins, on to Tampa Bay, Super Bowl. The list is so long it's impossible to begin to name them all. All to often some people are quick to write off players [especially QB's] when they don't have success early in their careers. Unless you're one of the exceptional ones the position can take years to master.

But you're talking about guys who already showed they could be successful in the NFL, or a guy like Johnny Unitas who got his 2nd chance like a year into his career.

I hope that Beck is the next Trent Green. I just haven't personally seen it yet. I certainly hope that if he's our guy then I'm totally proven wrong.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But you're talking about guys who already showed they could be successful in the NFL, or a guy like Johnny Unitas who got his 2nd chance like a year into his career.

I hope that Beck is the next Trent Green. I just haven't personally seen it yet. I certainly hope that if he's our guy then I'm totally proven wrong.

That actually makes the situation even worse SS. When you have players like the few I mentioned who showed promise early in their careers get bounced around, it's not difficult to understand the fate of guys like Beck who've been evaluated as being less talented.

I won't have a problem with whatever Shanahan decides to do and it certainly wouldn't surprise me if Beck never got an opportunity under center, nor would I be disappointed if he didn't.