Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

[musicmaster45]

Best College Quarterbacks That Will Be Selected in Next Year's 2012 NFL Draft | Bleacher Report

Here is next years quarterbacks. Some solid talent. I like Kellen Moore.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

Best College Quarterbacks That Will Be Selected in Next Year's 2012 NFL Draft | Bleacher Report

Here is next years quarterbacks. Some solid talent. I like Kellen Moore.

Please notice that some of those guys are potential franchise QB's and we could draft them without tanking the season.

Sorry, I'll stop. But people who root for us to lose chap my hide.

[musicmaster45]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Please notice that some of those guys are potential franchise QB's and we could draft them without tanking the season.

Sorry, I'll stop. But people who root for us to lose chap my hide.

I mean really, who wants to see us lose? Andrew Luck is much better than Newton but i think he will suffer some of the fate as Newton, get sent to a terrible team and have a huge bust rate because of it.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

Best College Quarterbacks That Will Be Selected in Next Year's 2012 NFL Draft | Bleacher Report

Here is next years quarterbacks. Some solid talent. I like Kellen Moore.

Lol, next years class always > this years class.

Barkley will return to school in 2012. Put it this way, not even NCAA sanctions could get Barkley to transfer away from USC and 2012 will be the first year that the Trojans will be bowl eligible. I seriously doubt that someone as highly touted as Barkley will bolt for the NFL.

Jones will probalby follow Bradfords lead and go back to school as well, especially with the rookie wage scale that will be in place for next years draft. Besides Leinart, Bradford, and Locker have all demonstrated that going back to school, even if you loose the national title, get injured, or have a terrible year, you will never fall lower then 10 once you become projected as a top 5 pick.

So after 2 of the top 3 return to school and 100% of people finally realize that Luck is out of reach then 2013 will become the best QB class ever.

Maybe it's the right decision to hold out on a QB, maybe it's not, but it is virtually guaranteed that a good amount of Skin fans will call the 2012 QB class weak especially when compared to the class that will be projected in 2013. Then in 2013 the cycle will begin anew.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Lol, next years class always > this years class.

Barkley will return to school in 2012. Put it this way, not even NCAA sanctions could get Barkley to transfer away from USC and 2012 will be the first year that the Trojans will be bowl eligible. I seriously doubt that someone as highly touted as Barkley will bolt for the NFL.

Jones will probalby follow Bradfords lead and go back to school as well, especially with the rookie wage scale that will be in place for next years draft. Besides Leinart, Bradford, and Locker have all demonstrated that going back to school, even if you loose the national title, get injured, or have a terrible year, you will never fall lower then 10 once you become projected as a top 5 pick.

So after 2 of the top 3 return to school and 100% of people finally realize that Luck is out of reach then 2013 will become the best QB class ever.

Maybe it's the right decision to hold out on a QB, maybe it's not, but it is virtually guaranteed that a good amount of Skin fans will call the 2012 QB class weak especially when compared to the class that will be projected in 2013.

Well, at least between 2009 and 2012, its been true every single season that next years class>this years class.

Three consecutive years doesn't make a trend but that doesn't mean the people who said it are wrong.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, at least between 2009 and 2012, its been true every single season that next years class>this years class.

Three consecutive years doesn't make a trend but that doesn't mean the people who said it are wrong.

Well I guess you're right. However I feel like the reasons for constantly lobbying for the next years class aren't pure. Like people are saying it just to say it, rather then actually meaning it.

Also I can get on board with Beck on two conditions. One we fix the running game. And two Beck gives up on the Trump style comb over. If you're going to be the face of the franchise then shave it off. Bald is beautiful, just ask Matt Schuab....okay maybe not beautiful but hey at least you'll put up pro bowl numbers in this system.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

Best College Quarterbacks That Will Be Selected in Next Year's 2012 NFL Draft | Bleacher Report

Here is next years quarterbacks. Some solid talent. I like Kellen Moore.

Wow, no Dan Persa in there? Persa has to be top 5 in Qbs in next years draft. He was voted First Team Big Ten QB by the coaches and second team by the press, beating out Pryor in both. 73% completion rate 15 TDs and only 4 INTS. I know he is from Northwestern, but the guy is mobile as hell, and was virtually the entire NU offense. If he has an outstanding season again next year I do hope we give him a look.

[PHazard]

Anyone else see the Albert Haynesworth for Kyle Orton trade scenario heating up? I would have started this as a thread but i really dont know how to lol. Everyone thought the Broncos would select Marcell Dareus until earlier in the day before the draft started, thats when Von Miller's name became a more popular option. DT is possibly the Broncos weakest defensive position and they didnt take even ONE in the draft. The Redskins weakest offensive position is QB. I know Shanahan and Elway have a lil "tension" between them but if they could get a deal done, what would you think?

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by PHazard

Anyone else see the Albert Haynesworth for Kyle Orton trade scenario heating up? I would have started this as a thread but i really dont know how to lol. Everyone thought the Broncos would select Marcell Dareus until earlier in the day before the draft started, thats when Von Miller's name became a more popular option. DT is possibly the Broncos weakest defensive position and they didnt take even ONE in the draft. The Redskins weakest offensive position is QB. I know Shanahan and Elway have a lil "tension" between them but if they could get a deal done, what would you think?

I don't like Orton, if we can say FU to "A Hole" then make the deal but I still don't think Orton is a franchise QB.

[CRedskinsRule]

A good article on Beck's response to Shanny's statements:

Shanahan endorses Beck; Beck determined to win job - Redskins Journal

also in the comments:
Is being better than JaMarcus Russell really saying much.
Other 2007 picks include Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton and Trent Edwards.

That said Shanny did say he had Beck #1 on his board, so he rated him over Quinn and Kolb as well as Russell.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

A good article on Beck's response to Shanny's statements:

Shanahan endorses Beck; Beck determined to win job - Redskins Journal

also in the comments:
Is being better than JaMarcus Russell really saying much.
Other 2007 picks include Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Drew Stanton and Trent Edwards.

That said Shanny did say he had Beck #1 on his board, so he rated him over Quinn and Kolb as well as Russell.

I love that he's been training with Drew Brees and Aaron Rogers during the offseason.

I've got my fingers crossed that Beck shines for us. Not sure he's a franchise-type guy, but it sounds like Shanny loves the kid. The fact that we didn't select even one QB reinforces that.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I love that he's been training with Drew Brees and Aaron Rogers during the offseason.

I've got my fingers crossed that Beck shines for us. Not sure he's a franchise-type guy, but it sounds like Shanny loves the kid. The fact that we didn't select even one QB reinforces that.

Agreed. But if Shannyx2 didn't like any Qb's this year, we don't need him to be a franchise QB, just someone who capably gets us to this point next year.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I love that he's been training with Drew Brees and Aaron Rogers during the offseason.

I've got my fingers crossed that Beck shines for us. Not sure he's a franchise-type guy, but it sounds like Shanny loves the kid. The fact that we didn't select even one QB reinforces that.

Hopefully that helps him a lot, no doubt.

I'm not sure I'll say it's a reinforcement quite yet. There are a number of possible scenarios: we wanted a guy or two and missed him, didn't want to "settle" .. we have our eyes on a FA or trade for a vet ... or that we're happy with what we have

I doubt that we go in with Grossman, Beck, and a UDFA are our 3

at least we have things like this to look forward to

[SmootSmack]

I'm not following how it makes the situation worse

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not following how it makes the situation worse

Dosen't make Beck's situation any better or worse per say but, it does make it easy to understand how/why he like others who may not have had ample opportunity in the right situation can be sometimes judged prematurily.

Hey! dont get me wrong, I'm not on some type of John Beck crusade.
I've only seen the guy play once in Miami and that wasn't enough for me to know much about him.