Willie Parker Trashes Redskins Lockeroom

[over the mountain]

After 10 losing seasons, some in embarrassing fashion, I can see certain skins players as not having the same drive and dedication they had in the past.

Moss, portis rogers, etc have been here thru different coaches and off-field circuses that I could understand a person's natural inclination to stop trying as hard, to stop taking things as serious b/c in the end . . . . we just lose anyway.

Not to say what willie said is true or not, but a decade of losing and all the off-field stuff could be fodder for discontent and uninterested players.

[MTK]

10 losing seasons?

Under Snyder they've had 6 losing seasons. Granted that still sucks but still...

[over the mountain]

Ok .. i should have said bottom five for total wins the last decade.

[SirClintonPortis]

http://143.107.235.30/informatica/gr...narcissism.pdf

What Mr. Snyder has instilled into the Redskins, even down to the fans, is high narcissism.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

http://143.107.235.30/informatica/gr...narcissism.pdf

What Mr. Snyder has instilled into the Redskins, even down to the fans, is high narcissism.

This didn't start with Snyder, but whatever if people want to believe it did, so be it

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This didn't start with Snyder, but whatever if people want to believe it did, so be it

You know more than me, so I'll modify my viewpoint a bit.

He certainly didn't stop it, though.

[saden1]

Parker can't be wrong as it shows on the football field that the skins don't care about football as much as the steelers. Of course not all players party but damn if a lot of don't. When I was in D.C. over x-mass they had an ad on WPGC for some club where they advertised Brandon Banks as featured guest on the saturday before the sunday game against the giants...pathetic.

[saden1]

Whether parker came for coffee is irrelevant...what is relevant is that he came in expecting the same work ethics as the steeler players from redskin players. His expectations were obviously ludicrous.

[SmootSmack]

I wonder if Parker made any attempt to instill those work ethics here.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wonder if Parker made any attempt to instill those work ethics here.

It takes two to tango. Can't instill anything if there aren't any willing partners.

[Swarley]

it sure didn't seem like it. To me it comes across as a way of saying, I didn't succeed because my teammates didn't work hard enough.

[Swarley]

you really think with players like PD, Fletcher, Armstrong there aren't willing partners?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

you really think with players like PD, Fletcher, Armstrong there aren't willing partners?

Changing the collective whole is going to take more than just buddying up with the "no need to fix" guys on the team. Even if Willie were competent at the tast, he would have had to have a LOT of time on his hands to go beyond a small circle of players.

What Parker(and Tryon, and Edwin Williams, and maybe others) experienced when he landed in Redskins-land is that the values and tacit assumptions that have been fostered here is that football is a tier below "fun time" and "getting attention". Yes, SOME guys like Fletch and PD show up and just do their work, but others DO NOT FOLLOW their lead because it hasn't been drilled into them by the folks at the top. AH is one of them, but I would also suspect that guys like CP, Rogers, also showed some lack of commitment compared to the "minimum standard" follow in places elsewhere in the league.

[SmootSmack]

I have heard nothing but good things about the work ethics of guys like Zo, Torain, Wilson, doughty, even Malcolm Kelly, to name a few so I dont buy that there were no willing partners

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I have heard nothing but good things about the work ethics of guys like Zo, Torain, Wilson, doughty, even Malcolm Kelly, to name a few so I dont buy that there were no willing partners

I admit that what I actually said did not convey the intuition I actually wanted to convey. My bad.