2011 Season & 2012 Draft

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Andrew Luck will be a Dallas Cowboy.

/nuttery

That's crazy enough to become reality.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

That's crazy enough to become reality.

Not as crazy as you might think. ehehehe
Rob Ryan effect. Romo playing insecure due to the collarbone. Potential injuries on the O-line. Newman losing a step. Felix Jones getting injured.
It can happen.

Their WR corp is the only truly "sure" thing they can count on to have them avoid a disastrous season.

[atomicnixon]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Not as crazy as you might think. ehehehe
Rob Ryan effect. Romo playing insecure due to the collarbone. Potential injuries on the O-line. Newman losing a step. Felix Jones getting injured.
It can happen.

Their WR corp is the only truly "sure" thing they can count on to have them avoid a disastrous season.

Sorry, never heard of the Rob Ryan effect. I thought he was a good defensive coordinator, please tell me he has some curse like Norville!! I was worried that Dallas picked his as their cord.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by atomicnixon

Sorry, never heard of the Rob Ryan effect. I thought he was a good defensive coordinator, please tell me he has some curse like Norville!! I was worried that Dallas picked his as their cord.

We'll see if it was mainly a lack of talent that did him in or if he played a significant role in the performances of his past Ds. I'm banking on the latter. hehehe

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Not as crazy as you might think. ehehehe
Rob Ryan effect. Romo playing insecure due to the collarbone. Potential injuries on the O-line. Newman losing a step. Felix Jones getting injured.
It can happen.

Their WR corp is the only truly "sure" thing they can count on to have them avoid a disastrous season.

also, we don't know if there will be a draft & if there is if it will be the same format. If there's a lottery then any losing team could win the 1st pick.

I wouldn't put it past Snyder & JJ to start pulling out all the stops to trade up for Luck next year as well.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Not as crazy as you might think. ehehehe
Rob Ryan effect. Romo playing insecure due to the collarbone. Potential injuries on the O-line. Newman losing a step. Felix Jones getting injured.
It can happen.

Their WR corp is the only truly "sure" thing they can count on to have them avoid a disastrous season.

You must have a crystal ball , Romo , Jones and Newman are all hurt 2 weeks into the season .... brilliant !!!!!

[SFREDSKIN]

There will be at least 5 QB that could go on the 1st round next year, the skins will pick one of them:

Luck-Stanford
Foles-Arizona
Moore- Boise State
Barkley-USC
Jones-Oaklahoma

[Big C]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

There will be at least 5 QB that could go on the 1st round next year, the skins will pick one of them:

Luck-Stanford
Foles-Arizona
Moore- Boise State
Barkley-USC
Jones-Oaklahoma

kellen moore would be a great fit for this offense i think, but i dont think he goes in the first round due to questions about his arm strength.

landry jones, barkley, and luck are going to be very high picks, maybe all in the top 10. nick foles, im really not sold on him at all. i see him being a bust.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Big C

kellen moore would be a great fit for this offense i think, but i dont think he goes in the first round due to questions about his arm strength.

landry jones, barkley, and luck are going to be very high picks, maybe all in the top 10. nick foles, im really not sold on him at all. i see him being a bust.

I'm sure this is why Shanahan passed on a QB this year, knowing that there will be more talent available next year.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Big C

kellen moore would be a great fit for this offense i think, but i dont think he goes in the first round due to questions about his arm strength.

landry jones, barkley, and luck are going to be very high picks, maybe all in the top 10. nick foles, im really not sold on him at all. i see him being a bust.

It's the same story every year. The next years draft is going to be the greatest QB draft ever, then suddenly draft day comes and it's all about next years group.

Landry Jones - Would have to win the National Championship to consider coming out. He's 50-50. Saw Bradford go number 1 despite missing most of his senior season so he's probably not to worried about dropping due to injury.

Matt Barkley - Opted not to transfer from USC after the scandal. Next year the bowl ban is lifted, I seriously doubt he leaves for the NFL as soon as USC becomes bowl eligible, and who knows, this time next year he could be playing under Pete Carroll again. Oh yeah, family's rich (played at a High School that cost over $40k to attend for four years). 99% chance he stays. People need to realize Barkley is very loyal to USC. Based on where he was born and where he played high school ball he's probably been a life long fan.

Now if Nick Folles continues throwing for 70%+ with his physical tools and the other two underclassmen stay like I expect them to then I could see Folles being a top 10 pick.

When it comes down to it though I fully expect to see the top of the class read out as Luck, Folles, and Moore. Not a bad class but for most teams thats really a two player class.

[skinster]

I accidentally started a new thread about the 2012 draft not seeing this one, I'm just copying and pasting my op from the other thread that got closed down.

I just briefly checked over 5 2012 draft analyst sites, and I gotta say, things are looking very good for the skins. I want to preface with what I'm about to say with I know it is very early, things change, players don't come out, and we also don't know where we are going to draft, but at the same what I saw is still encouraging for the time being.
I'd say that from a drafting perspective, the positions we need to look at are WR, ILB, and QB. I tried to average all the sites I looked at out and it seems like there will be about 4 first round WRs, 3 first round ILBs (and at least one 4-3 olb that we might be able to convert), and 3 first round QBs. On top of that, I'd say corner and interior line would be our next priorities, with DL being a possibility also. It looked like there will be 4 first round corners, two first round guards, and 5 first round 3-4 DL. By my count, that's 10 players we could target, and 11 picks after that would contribute to our team (we'd probably just pick best player available.

If you don't care about why I think these positions are important, stop reading now.

WR-obviously we don't have any bonefide studs, but we do have ok depth. Moss is aging, gaffney is aging, Hankerson is too early to write off as being a number 1, but his zero catches isn't encouraging, and I think next year we will lose cooley. This is a draft pick for the future and the present.

ILB-Fletcher's contract is up and he is a million years old. Rocky's numbers look good, but I don't believe in him, and I don't think the skins FO does either. Our backups haven't done anything to show that they can fill in adequately as starters.

QB-Rex is doing fine now, but he is 31, and who knows how long he will keep up his good job.

CB-Hall, Wilson, Buchanon and possibly Barnes we have. Hall isn't a very technical cover man, he is an athlete and a gambler. He plays extremely hard/wrecklessly and I think this will impact his body quicker than it should. I don't think he will change his style of gambling or going for the big plays, but I think his athletic ability will dwindle soon and his playmaking ability will go with it as his knack for giving up big plays won't. Wilson hasn't done anything to impress me so far, and he's hurt all the time (plus he only has a 3 year deal). Barnes/Westbrook/others I don't think we can rely on to be starters down the road. Buchanon is in his last year with the skins imo.

DL- We are actually pretty good here imo with Jenkins, Coefield, Bowen, and Carriker if we re-sign him, but Jenkins might not recover well from his acl, and Carriker might not re-sign. But even if they do, it is always good to have depth/rotation players at DL. There seem to be about 5 players in the first that could play DL for us. If we don't like anyone at our target positions, and we really like someone at DL, I could see us taking one.

Interior linemen- Our interior line isn't too poor, but it could be better for sure. I honestly don't see shanny drafting any interior linemen, but I view it as a need so I put it there as a last resort option because I think he will take it over safety (laron and otagwe), OT (Williams, Brown), RB (hightower and Helu), TE (davis) and OLB (orakpo/kerrigan). I'd say if there is no DL we like at our spot, and we really like a guard, we'll take him. I think the battle between the 3 positions we might take but aren't a priority will come down to whatever player we are in love with the most (with CB having the slight edge over the other 2 due to shanny's past of not drafting interior o-linemen high, and our DL already being solid)