Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

[Dirtbag59]

Cardinals game is up. I intend to do Grossman's week 15, 16, an 17 games but it's much easier to do the 33 snaps that Beck did during preseason rather then the 130+ snaps Grossman did this year so it'll probably take some time to finish all three games.


Also heres the Jets game.

[Bucket]

He actually looks sharp, and I enjoy his quick release. He actually looks quicker on his feet then Mcnabb did.

[Dirtbag59]

The thing that continues to worry me is that deep ball. We'll see this preseason (assuming there is one) if last preseason was simply him not knowing the timing on the deeper routes or simply a case of Beck being a guy that isn't good enough to be a starting QB.

PS - 30 you need to be more specific about which Cromartie. I was watching the Cardinals footage looking for DRC, and who cares if you wrote Jets, it still doesn't explain your inattention to detail

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

PS - 30 you need to be more specific about which Cromartie. I was watching the Cardinals footage looking for DRC, and who cares if you wrote Jets, it still doesn't explain your inattention to detail

lol what?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

lol what?

Exactly, that guy you quoted is stupid. Actually to explain I didn't read the part where 30Gut cited the game he was watching and for a moment forgot there was another Cromartie besides DRC so I spent a minute looking for the throw that I eventually remembered was in the Jets game against Antonio Cromartie, not his long lost cousine Rodgers-Cromartie.

John Beck’s mullet: a photo retrospective - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post

By the way does anyone have a recent picture of Beck. Steinberg alleges that Beck shaved off the mullet which I believe really hurts his chances of starting.

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Thanks Dirtbag for those!! I'd rather have Beck than McNabb any day of the week. Quick release, good mobility and accurate.

No problem

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

The thing that continues to worry me is that deep ball. We'll see this preseason (assuming there is one) if last preseason was simply him not knowing the timing on the deeper routes or simply a case of Beck being a guy that isn't good enough to be a starting QB.

I'm not very concerned about his deep ball.
(If you watch the BYU clips it seem all he did was throw bombs)

My main concerns are:
o throwing height
o inconsistent mechanics/variety of throwing platforms
o velocity to make the stick throws

He's only 6'2 and, unlike Drew Brees, Beck has a low release point
One reason why Brees is successful despite being 6' is he has a classic over the shoulder throwing motion with a high release point that makes him throw taller then his height Beck is the opposite.
Low release point, makes him shorter.
Will it be an issue? Who knows?

He's kinda like Romo and McCoy that he can throw/release the ball from different angles and from different platforms.
But, it makes his mechanics seem inconsistent, will the ball always go where he wants?

Velocity, I see hints of it but I want to see more.

PS - 30 you need to be more specific about which Cromartie. I was watching the Cardinals footage looking for DRC, and who cares if you wrote Jets, it still doesn't explain your inattention to detail

Eh?
Just how many pills are you taking post surgey?
You may want to cut back or take more because they're making you loopy.
The Jets have Cromatie not Rogers-Cromartie, last names are there for a reason my friend.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Cardinals game is up. I intend to do Grossman's week 15, 16, an 17 games but it's much easier to do the 33 snaps that Beck did during preseason rather then the 130+ snaps Grossman did this year so it'll probably take some time to finish all three games.


Also heres the Jets game.

I was pretty impressed with Beck in those two preseason games. He had only been with team 12 days, when he played the Jets. Another thing I liked was Erik Cook's Performance. Maybe the big Tuna was just a realy bad fit for him.

Check this out, every body loved this guy:

YouTube - ‪John Beck draft...

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I was pretty impressed with Beck in those two preseason games. He had only been with team 12 days, when he played the Jets. Another thing I liked was Erik Cook's Performance. Maybe the big Tuna was just a realy bad fit for him.

Cook and Austin were definitely preseason heroes. Capers wasn't to bad either. Personally I would love to see Cook win the starting Center job. Also Kory L didn't look to bad either this past year but then again he plays the easiest position on the line. Though I'm not sure that pairing a tall center (Cook) with a short QB (Grossman) and another QB whose throwing motion makes him play short (Beck) is the best idea.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Cook and Austin were definitely preseason heroes. Capers wasn't to bad either. Personally I would love to see Cook win the starting Center job. Also Kory L didn't look to bad either this past year but then again he plays the easiest position on the line. Then again I'm not sure that pairing a tall center with a short QB and another QB whose throwing motion makes him play short is the best idea.

Yeah, we thought we were looking at the all crap team and Kory and Will turned out to be decent starters. Selvish had allot of the athletic abilities, but was very weak. Hopefully, he has been in the weight room and can earn a spot on the roster this year.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Yeah, we thought we were looking at the all crap team and Kory and Will turned out to be decent starters. Selvish had allot of the athletic abilities, but was very weak. Hopefully, he has been in the weight room and can earn a spot on the roster this year.

The only thing I can't get over is how we gave up so many sacks. As I said before it was an improvement over last year given we went up 16 spots in the attempt rankings while still giving up the same number of sacks.

However I don't get how Houston allowed only 25 with a similar number of pass attempts as they don't exactly have marquee names outside of their tackles (and even then Winston and Brown aren't that well known). In fact even more frustrating is the possibility that we might have more skill and talent then the Houston O-Line.

At the very least the yards were there. The red zone numbers however were not. I guess we're like Green Bay in that we'll have to accept the idea that maybe we just give up a lot of sacks. What might be more sobering is the red zone percentage after being 8th in pass yardage. Hopefully someone like Beck can be what we need given that he's more accurate then Rex and Young with a quicker release

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

The only thing I can't get over is how we gave up so many sacks. As I said before it was an improvement over last year given we went up 16 spots in the attempt rankings while still giving up the same number of sacks.

However I don't get how Houston allowed only 25 with a similar number of pass attempts as they don't exactly have marquee names outside of their tackles (and even then Winston and Brown aren't that well known). In fact even more frustrating is the possibility that we might have more skill and talent then the Houston O-Line.

At the very least the yards were there. The red zone numbers however were not. I guess we're like Green Bay in that we'll have to accept the idea that maybe we just give up a lot of sacks. What might be more sobering is the red zone percentage after being 8th in pass yardage. Hopefully someone like Beck can be what we need given that he's more accurate then Rex and Young with a quicker release

Once they got Will and Kory in there and Jamal was healthy, they started getting better every game. I am getting pretty excited about Beck. I almost cried when we passed on Gabbert. I actually had a headache it upset me so bad. But, as I do every year, I convince myself that we did the right thing. Anyway, hearing Jaws brag how good Beck is, got me excited. Those two preseason games showed me nothing that I did not like about Beck. Now we need to get this lock out stuff over with.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Cardinals game is up. I intend to do Grossman's week 15, 16, an 17 games but it's much easier to do the 33 snaps that Beck did during preseason rather then the 130+ snaps Grossman did this year so it'll probably take some time to finish all three games.


Also heres the Jets game.

You're pulling up John Beck pre season highlights? Wow. I'm not sure what to say about that.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You're pulling up John Beck pre season highlights? Wow. I'm not sure what to say about that.

Send money plz. Lol jk, I already haz monies. Either way being bed ridden with a hernia the past two weeks has given me more time then usual, so I decided to take on a few projects.

Originally Posted by Hog1

Have you ever noticed how simliar John Becks release and style of play is to.....John Elway? Peyton Manning? Tom Brady......Joe Montana.......Sonny...Johnny U????

Personally not ready to commit to him [Beck] until I see him throw the deep ball competently at this level. Say what you want about Rex, but after doing videos on both now I have to say it's a thing of beauty watching some of the deep throws Rex unleashes against unsuspecting defenses. Beck was more captain checkdown during the preseason but at the same time he did take plenty of shots downfield. Next preseason we'll need him to complete some of those shots, or better yet, during the regular season.

Listen to me, all optimistic about a preaseason even taking place. lulz.