Rex Grossman's Three Game Audition

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

As long as he can finish drives then I'm all for it.

The problem with McNabb, and the Redskins for that matter, this past year was never yardage but rather his inability to convert, weather it be third downs or red zone attempts. It took Donovan 8 games to throw 7 Touchdown Passes.

Grossman on the other hand did it in 3. Granted the rest of the offense had more experience in week 15 then they did in week 1 but to further illustrate McNabb only threw for more then one TD in two games. And that was the Monday Night Beatdown at the hands of Philly and the Tampa game. Again it took Donny 14 games to have two games with at least 2 touchdowns. Grossman on the other hand needed only 3 games.

I'm now convinced that this offense will always get a ton of yards through the air. What we really need is a closer, Grossman ironically proved he could do that. In all liklihood had he started 16 games he would have probably gotten around 20-25 TD passes compared to McNabb's 14 which was on pace for 15 or 16. And I'm tempted to say 18 or 19 seeing as how me missed out on the second Dallas game but as we can see in McNabb's best game of the season he was only able to get one TD against Houston who had a worse secondary then Dallas.

Still I'm intrigued by Becks combination of accuracy, quick release, and potential to anticipate throws.

Looking back on Young at the other hand I'm curious to find out weather or not he can close out drives and throw 30 to 40 times a game. Either way we should bring him in.

In the end I'm looking for someone that can put up at least 25 TD passes, while really hoping for 30.

Notes:
Redskins threw for 4,261 Yards in 2010
Redskins were 31st in 3rd Down Conversions
Finished 25th in Scoring Offense with 18.9 PPG
Matt Schuab threw for 29 TD's in 2009, 24 in 2010
Jay Cutler threw for 25 TD Pass in 2007, 20 in 2006
Cutler had 4 Consecutive 2 TD games in his first 4 starts as a rookie

Apparently "closer" means passing for TDs. So would you not look at td drives that ended w/a rushing td?

As a "closer" 2 of the 3 games RExy started ended w/his throws; v. Dallas w/an int., v. NY w/an overthrow. I know in both of those games there were costly turnovers & defensive breakdowns that weren't his fault, but he still didn't finish games any better than McNabb.

I know you've looked into a lot more than I, I'm just not convinced that Rex was any better than DM. The results were certainly similar.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Apparently "closer" means passing for TDs. So would you not look at td drives that ended w/a rushing td?

As a "closer" 2 of the 3 games RExy started ended w/his throws; v. Dallas w/an int., v. NY w/an overthrow. I know in both of those games there were costly turnovers & defensive breakdowns that weren't his fault, but he still didn't finish games any better than McNabb.

I know you've looked into a lot more than I, I'm just not convinced that Rex was any better than DM. The results were certainly similar.

Of course I would consider rushing TD's but the fact of the matter is the best QB's in the league as well as QB's in this system (both in Denver and Houston) have finished with many multiple TD games. Also McNabb left a good amount of TD passes on the field if you have to consider how many deep balls he under/over threw. Armstrong was probably as shocked as anyone during that Giants game that he was hit in stride by Sexy Rexy.

Anyway maybe the context is wrong and you have a point that these are very general numbers. Still from what I can see over the course of 16 games we would be better off with Rex then we would be with McNabb, in spite of the turnovers.

Either way my wish remains the same. Find someone who can finish drives on their own

Also thanks for reading my post, I'm starting to get to the point where I'm rambling on and on while going in circles

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Of course I would consider rushing TD's but the fact of the matter is the best QB's in the league as well as QB's in this system (both in Denver and Houston) have finished with many multiple TD games. Also McNabb left a good amount of TD passes on the field if you have to consider how many deep balls he under/over threw. Armstrong was probably as shocked as anyone during that Giants game that he was hit in stride by Sexy Rexy.

Anyway maybe the context is wrong and you have a point that these are very general numbers. Still from what I can see over the course of 16 games we would be better off with Rex then we would be with McNabb, in spite of the turnovers.

Either way my wish remains the same. Find someone who can finish drives on their own

Also thanks for reading my post, I'm starting to get to the point where I'm rambling on and on while going in circles

My pleasure, good posts & thread. First off, I found McNabb & Grossman in b&g very weird. Would prefer not to have either one. In a perfect world, we'd already have a young qb we drafted to groom as starter. Of course, that isn't the case.

There are two things going for Rex IMO; his knowledge/experience of the offense, and his desire to become a starter & rebuild his career. Other than that, I don't see much upgrade w/Rex over DM.

McNabb may have just been too comfortable in Philly, might've taken some things for granted due to his experience w/the offense there. Coming into a new system wasn't something he'd done before. He seemed to have that 'old dog - new tricks' issue; kind of tried to get by w/what he's always done, but his age & flaws really showed at times.

What is unfortunate for him & the team is that IF he has any desire to prove people wrong & bounce back w/a Farve like comeback year (see 09), that the personal damage done at this point may have cut too deep to repair any relationship with the staff. If he goes somewhere else he will likely play w/a chip on his shoulder and have a good year. The opportunity to motivate him to do that in DC may be lost, but there's still a small chance Mike S. could smooth it over & bring him back.