If Pryor entered the supplemental draft would you pick him.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I can't tell if you're joking or not.
He improved each year.
2,772 yards 65 comp% 27 TDs 11 INTS 157.9 QB rating (in a pro style offense)
And the physical skillset is undeniable
A 6th round pick well worth the risk.

I would argue that Ohio St. is nowhere near a "Pro Style" offense.

While Pryor was padding his numbers against; Marshall, Ohio, E. Michigan and the middle/bottom of the Big Ten how did he do against competitive teams:
Wisconsin: 14-28 156yds 50% Comp 0 TD 1 INT
Miami: 12-27 233yds 44% Comp 1 TD 0 INT
Iowa: 18-33 195yds 54.5% Comp 1 TD 2 INT
Arkansas: He played well 14-25 221yds 56% Comp 2 TD 0 INT

Keep in mind he won't be able to put up the run numbers he did in the NCAA at the NFL level. Pryor is not, and I don't expect will develop into, a proficient passer at the NFL level. Would I risk a sixth rounder on him as an "athlete", yes. Projected as a full-time QB, no way.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Some interesting info:

Behind the Blue Disk - FBS Athletic Revenues and Expenses - NCAA.org

NCAA report: Economy cuts into college athletics - ESPN

The 12 Most Valuable Teams in NCAA Football | Business Pundit

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Some interesting info:

Behind the Blue Disk - FBS Athletic Revenues and Expenses - NCAA.org

NCAA report: Economy cuts into college athletics - ESPN

The 12 Most Valuable Teams in NCAA Football | Business Pundit

Solidifies what I was saying about big sport athletics paying for all the small ones. THIS is why you can't pay athletes beyond their scholarships and room and board.

"Football and men's basketball are the only two sports you have any chance of making money," he said. "If you start splitting that up between 30 or 40 sports, you start losing money."

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I would argue that Ohio St. is nowhere near a "Pro Style" offense.

While Pryor was padding his numbers against; Marshall, Ohio, E. Michigan and the middle/bottom of the Big Ten how did he do against competitive teams:
Wisconsin: 14-28 156yds 50% Comp 0 TD 1 INT
Miami: 12-27 233yds 44% Comp 1 TD 0 INT
Iowa: 18-33 195yds 54.5% Comp 1 TD 2 INT
Arkansas: He played well 14-25 221yds 56% Comp 2 TD 0 INT

Keep in mind he won't be able to put up the run numbers he did in the NCAA at the NFL level. Pryor is not, and I don't expect will develop into, a proficient passer at the NFL level. Would I risk a sixth rounder on him as an "athlete", yes. Projected as a full-time QB, no way.

I thought I was in the wrong thread for a second there with all the NCAA football programs revenue talk, what happened? Anyway back to Mr.Pryor.

You can disagree that Ohio State was a pro-style offense, but that means venturing into the definition of a pro-style offense, we can just agree to disagree on that point then, although I think its fairly obvious that Ohio State is a pro-style offense especially considering the number of college teams running the spread or spread variants.

About the numbers, you can take most any QB and pick their worst games and do the same thing you did above.

Did Pryor have some bad games? Sure. But, most college prospects are gonna have some bad games.

You make no mention of his physical skillset and that is a major factor in how QB prospects are judged.

I'm not into the prediction business so I'm not gonna guess wether Pryor develops or not.
But, Pryor does have an NFL skillset, and if you could get him for a 6th round pick , which isn't considered much different then an UDFA then that would be great value in my book.

The question the OP didn't ask is: would Pryor be a fit for Kyle's offense?
The answer to that question imo is no, now in Mike's offense?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 30gut

You can disagree that Ohio State was a pro-style offense, but that means venturing into the definition of a pro-style offense, we can just agree to disagree on that point then, although I think its fairly obvious that Ohio State is a pro-style offense especially considering the number of college teams running the spread or spread variants.

I get your point about pro-style vs. spread and agree. What I consider pro-style would be ND (w/Weis), Stanford, USC, etc. I view their passing games as more advanced/elaborate. Ohio St., Wisconsin, LSU, they're more smack you in the mouth and beat you over the top with a blazing WR off play-action.

Your top level QBs in college may have a bad game here or there, but generally not 3 out of 12 in a season. Normally with the guys that transition successfully to the NFL may not light up the scoreboard against a top flight D, but their numbers aren't consistently bad against those teams either.

You make no mention of his physical skillset and that is a major factor in how QB prospects are judged.

I'm not into the prediction business so I'm not gonna guess wether Pryor develops or not.
But, Pryor does have an NFL skillset, and if you could get him for a 6th round pick , which isn't considered much different then an UDFA then that would be great value in my book.

No question he's a tremendous athlete with great size, but I don't think he'll transition to the QB spot in the NFL. I do agree with you on the 6th rounder though, if that's all it takes, why not.

The question the OP didn't ask is: would Pryor be a fit for Kyle's offense? The answer to that question imo is no

agree