How would you fix the economy and budget issues?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The Tea Party thing was a little tongue and cheek.

I feel Rasmussen polling is an outlier for a few reasons. I rely more on the polling averages (RealClearPolitics - Opinion, News, Analysis, Videos and Polls) and not just one poll, because they're all tilted a bit. Quinnipiac is usually on the mark, however, whereas Rasmussen has a tendency to overstate Republican opinion and badly missed the mark in a number of states during the mid-term elections. Given that unemployment is where it is and the country in general is in a sour mood, I don't think the president could ask for any better than 45% approval right now.

Basically his base will be there come 2012: Jews, blacks, hispanics (don't believe the hype) gays, and female voters. So you're talking about Obama and whomever the GOP nominates will be vying for about 20-25% of the electorate. Probably your middle class independent white male. Without offending anyone on the board, I would say someone in Schneed's demographic. I don't know his politics, but he's about as objective as they come. Right now Obama is faring well vs Republicans--not great-- in a few key states: Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia. If he can pluck 2 or 3 of those states, he's going to be pretty hard to beat.

Finally, I would add any poll that has Sarah Palin within striking distance of the front runner Mitt Romney would make me a little suspicious. Not because of it's lack of accuracy, but it just shows you how much people are paying attention. Her candidacy is DOA, even among the most right leaning Republicans. I think once we get on the other side of Labor Day weekend, settle this debt ceiling thing, let Rick Perry flex a little bit, things will get a little more interesting.

Edit: In the spirit of keeping this thread on topic, let's move additional comments to the presidential thread.

The only female votes Obama can count on is black female's. You seem to forget that Obama has pretty much done nothing other then spend 1 trillion dollars to creat no jobs. Also the excitment has gone and they will have trouble getting the voter to turn out. Using your link 75% of Americans say we are headed on the wrong track.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The only female votes Obama can count on is black female's. You seem to forget that Obama has pretty much done nothing other then spend 1 trillion dollars to creat no jobs. Also the excitment has gone and they will have trouble getting the voter to turn out. Using your link 75% of Americans say we are headed on the wrong track.

That's just crazy talk, First. I promise you that the voter turnout will be strong. The very first bill Obama signed into law --- the very first one-- was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act benefiting women in the work place. He's appointed two female Supreme Court justices and he continues to fight for women's healthcare reproductive rights. Remember the battle over Planned Parenthood defunding last December? He's been pretty good on that front.

[mlmpetert]

‪Marco Rubio Says "Save The Country" & John Kerry Questions him‬‏ - YouTube

[saden1]

Debt ceiling raised... Masterful political theater. Bravo!

[GMScud]

The debt-ceiling deal: Winners and losers - The Washington Post

[firstdown]

Sounds like a pretty crappy deal to me. They are looking at cutting a trillion over the next ten years. Wow that will not help very much. So they are saying they will cut 1 trillion fro the next 10 yrs 38 trillion budget. Thats using 3.8 trillion per year X 10. That also asumes they don't increase the budget and it stays flat for 10 yrs. We know that cannot happen because of Obama care. The winners are no one.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Sounds like a pretty crappy deal to me. They are looking at cutting a trillion over the next ten years. Wow that will not help very much. So they are saying they will cut 1 trillion fro the next 10 yrs 38 trillion budget. Thats using 3.8 trillion per year X 10. That also asumes they don't increase the budget and it stays flat for 10 yrs. We know that cannot happen because of Obama care. The winners are no one.

Some say that's the sign of a good deal -- but in response to the thread question: Is it just me who thinks it's shameful that things like medicare, medicaid, pell grants for students, environmental protection money are going to get slashed but there is no mention of the massive kickbacks oil companies get (ExxonMobil: $20 billion over 5 years), corporations offshoring profits to avoid paying taxes on them, and tax loopholes which help companies like GE pay $0 in federal taxes this past year (General Electric Paid No Federal Taxes in 2010 - ABC News).

Simplify the tax code so there are no loopholes, stop giving kickbacks to companies making massive profits, and just collect taxes that corporations should be paying (not the average guy on the street) -- New Jersey got something like $700 million on delinquent taxes alone when they said people could pay rather than be audited. It seems so simple!!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Some say that's the sign of a good deal -- but in response to the thread question: Is it just me who thinks it's shameful that things like medicare, medicaid, pell grants for students, environmental protection money are going to get slashed but there is no mention of the massive kickbacks oil companies get (ExxonMobil: $20 billion over 5 years), corporations offshoring profits to avoid paying taxes on them, and tax loopholes which help companies like GE pay $0 in federal taxes this past year (General Electric Paid No Federal Taxes in 2010 - ABC News).

Simplify the tax code so there are no loopholes, stop giving kickbacks to companies making massive profits, and just collect taxes that corporations should be paying (not the average guy on the street) -- New Jersey got something like $700 million on delinquent taxes alone when they said people could pay rather than be audited. It seems so simple!!

When GE is such a buddy of Obama you really need to ask that question. That's GE's CEO beside Obama.

Ok so I went to see who has made the biggest donations to Obama and I have to ask why so many Universities are at the top of his list and why are they donating so many funds in the first place?


University of California $1,642,735Goldman Sachs $1,012,841Harvard University $862,604Microsoft Corp $852,167Google Inc $814,540JPMorgan Chase & Co $807,799Citigroup Inc $736,771Time Warner $623,118Sidley Austin LLP $600,298Stanford University $595,716National Amusements Inc $563,548WilmerHale Llp $549,918Skadden, Arps et al $543,539Columbia University $536,202UBS AG $532,674IBM Corp $532,372General Electric $528,180US Government $517,908Morgan Stanley $512,232Latham & Watkins $502,045

[saden1]

Umm, they dont work for you...they work for people with money and lobbyists.