Coroner: Ryan Dunn Died Violent Death

[MTK]

The roads could have been safer if he had just made the smart decision to not drive. He didn't have to die to make the roads safer. Too bad some are so callous when it comes to a loss of life these days, regardless of the circumstances.

Schneed haven't you admitted to driving aggressively, blocking drivers, etc? Don't you think your behavior is a bit unsafe at times on the road? It just seems funny you're so all about road safety yet you engage in somewhat dangerous behaviors while on the road yourself.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The roads could have been safer if he had just made the smart decision to not drive. He didn't have to die to make the roads safer. Too bad some are so callous when it comes to a loss of life these days, regardless of the circumstances.

Schneed haven't you admitted to driving aggressively, blocking drivers, etc? Don't you think your behavior is a bit unsafe at times on the road? It just seems funny you're so all about road safety yet you engage in somewhat dangerous behaviors while on the road yourself.

I probably have not described my "blocking" techniques on the road adequately enough. I'm not swerving in front of people when they change lanes. I just camp out in the left lane and refuse to go above 75. It doesn't feel dangerous in the least.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I probably have not described my "blocking" techniques on the road adequately enough. I'm not swerving in front of people when they change lanes. I just camp out in the left lane and refuse to go above 75. It doesn't feel dangerous in the least.

What if your blocking someone incited a road rager who then swerves to get around you and hits another car? It's possible your actions could lead to a dangerous situation.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

What if your blocking someone incited a road rager who then swerves to get around you and hits another car? It's possible your actions could lead to a dangerous situation.

If someone is incapable of controlling their anger, that's on them, not on me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If someone is incapable of controlling their anger, that's on them, not on me.

Yeah but you would still be part of the chain of events that set them off. Glad you could just brush off any responsibility.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

What if your blocking someone incited a road rager who then swerves to get around you and hits another car? It's possible your actions could lead to a dangerous situation.

I have to agree with Matty. S10's actions are making him a distracted driver.

I get really upset when I see folks texting and driving so much so I would "look" for them and then blow my horn. My wife pointed out you are just as distracted as them by trying to police them vs. just paying attention to your own driving. I agreed with her and now I just go about my way and stay alert to my own driving.

Doing anything other then watching the road make you a distracted driver.

S10 what you are doing makes you distracted driver. You are looking for speeders then you are trying to slow them down. Your adrenaline is going and you are focused on slowing them down vs. giving 100% of your attention to your own driving. Been there with done that I know it is dangerous.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I have to agree with Matty. S10's actions are making him a distracted driver.

I get really upset when I see folks texting and driving so much so I would "look" for them and then blow my horn. My wife pointed out you are just as distracted as them by trying to police them vs. just paying attention to your own driving. I agreed with her and now I just go about my way and stay alert to my own driving.

Doing anything other then watching the road make you a distracted driver.

S10 what you are doing makes you distracted driver. You are looking for speeders then you are trying to slow them down. Your adrenaline is going and you are focused on slowing them down vs. giving 100% of your attention to your own driving. Been there with done that I know it is dangerous.

Well said.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I have to agree with Matty. S10's actions are making him a distracted driver.

I get really upset when I see folks texting and driving so much so I would "look" for them and then blow my horn. My wife pointed out you are just as distracted as them by trying to police them vs. just paying attention to your own driving. I agreed with her and now I just go about my way and stay alert to my own driving.

Doing anything other then watching the road make you a distracted driver.

S10 what you are doing makes you distracted driver. You are looking for speeders then you are trying to slow them down. Your adrenaline is going and you are focused on slowing them down vs. giving 100% of your attention to your own driving. Been there with done that I know it is dangerous.

I'm not really looking for anybody, and I certainly don't feel any adrenaline. I simply camp out in the left lane when people are trying to speed, and I keep my speed constant at 75. I don't seek them out and swerve in front of them, it's not some big battle, it's much more of a passive thing. I simply drive 75 in the left lane and those who don't like it can shove it.

But this is getting away from the crux of the argument. I'll grant you that yes I suppose there's the remote possibility that I could anger someone, thus nominally magnifying the probability that an accident occurs. While I've never encountered such a thing, rather than tempting fate, maybe I'll rethink doing that and instead just get out of the way.

But Ryan Dunn never learned from any mistake. He didn't care, he just kept doing it. It made him a real and significant threat on the roads. Now that he's gone, it's safer for everyone.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm not really looking for anybody, and I certainly don't feel any adrenaline. I simply camp out in the left lane when people are trying to speed, and I keep my speed constant at 75. I don't seek them out and swerve in front of them, it's not some big battle, it's much more of a passive thing. I simply drive 75 in the left lane and those who don't like it can shove it.

But this is getting away from the crux of the argument. I'll grant you that yes I suppose there's the remote possibility that I could anger someone, thus nominally magnifying the probability that an accident occurs. While I've never encountered such a thing, rather than tempting fate, maybe I'll rethink doing that and instead just get out of the way.

But Ryan Dunn never learned from any mistake. He didn't care, he just kept doing it. It made him a real and significant threat on the roads. Now that he's gone, it's safer for everyone.

Look not to rehash a old thread but I have listen to you for nearly 6 years and 73 hundred post and I considered you one the folks I like on here (I know quit a honor!) with that said I have decent understating of your personality. With that knowledge I find it hard to beleive if a speeder is in your rear view mirror with you going 75 in the left lane that your adrenaline is not pumping and you have now become a distracted drive. I do/did the exact same thing with folks texting and driving. Both you and me are/were trying to police the roads when in reality we were becoming dangerous drivers by doing so. Good intentions on both our parts end result though was we are distracted drivers thus making us a danger to the road.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Look not to rehash a old thread but I have listen to you for nearly 6 years and 73 hundred post and I considered you one the folks I like on here (I know quit a honor!) with that said I have decent understating of your personality. With that knowledge I find it hard to beleive if a speeder is in your rear view mirror with you going 75 in the left lane that your adrenaline is not pumping and you have now become a distracted drive. I do/did the exact same thing with folks texting and driving. Both you and me are/were trying to police the roads when in reality we were becoming dangerous drivers by doing so. Good intentions on both our parts end result though was we are distracted drivers thus making us a danger to the road.

The big difference though is Ryan Dunn was a scruffy looking douche while I'm incredibly handsome.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I probably have not described my "blocking" techniques on the road adequately enough. I'm not swerving in front of people when they change lanes. I just camp out in the left lane and refuse to go above 75. It doesn't feel dangerous in the least.

camp out? so you intentionally sit in the left lane so people behind you have to try and go around you?

You probably poses a greater threat to others on the roadway than a driver with a .09 bac doing the speed limit in the right lane.

I dont like going 75 either, but if i got a long line of cars behind me and im going the same speed as the lane to my right, i get over.

your quite they asshole to impose your set of beliefs on others, at their peril and all the other cars around you.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

camp out? so you intentionally sit in the left lane so people behind you have to try and go around you?

You probably poses a greater threat to others on the roadway than a driver with a .09 bac doing the speed limit in the right lane.

I dont like going 75 either, but if i got a long line of cars behind me and im going the same speed as the lane to my right, i get over.

your quite they asshole to impose your set of beliefs on others, at their peril and all the other cars around you.

no! oh no! it is starting all over again. Make it stop make it stop!

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The roads could have been safer if he had just made the smart decision to not drive. He didn't have to die to make the roads safer. Too bad some are so callous when it comes to a loss of life these days, regardless of the circumstances.

Schneed haven't you admitted to driving aggressively, blocking drivers, etc? Don't you think your behavior is a bit unsafe at times on the road? It just seems funny you're so all about road safety yet you engage in somewhat dangerous behaviors while on the road yourself.

As for the bolded point, you're right. But he had the chance to change his behavior over and over and over and over. He was ticketed for reckless offenses so many times. At some point you just have to call a spade a spade, he wasn't going to change his behavior. He was just a reckless asshole.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

As for the bolded point, you're right. But he had the chance to change his behavior over and over and over and over. He was ticketed for reckless offenses so many times. At some point you just have to call a spade a spade, he wasn't going to change his behavior. He was just a reckless asshole.

Yes that is what makes me mad it is obvious this guy has a history of just not giving a crap and does reckless stuff that endangers other people. that is why I have a hard time working up the tear ducts for him.

Also here is what really gets me about folks like him. You can afford that car but won't pay the cab fare home? What a idiot.