RIP Amy Winehouse

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by saden1

She's most certainly is not worthy of pitty.

Dumb statement. Drug addicts deserve pity. Terrible disease.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Dumb statement. Drug addicts deserve pity. Terrible disease.

I cant help but think its kind of funny when people call drug and alcohol abuse a disease. Its like lets say you were dying of MS and someone said yeah i know how tough that is, my dad had a disease he died of.... he was a cocaine addict. Its got to be hard on your family too.

I think people label drug abuse a disease because it makes it easier for them to apply pity and cope with a friend, family member, or famous person that abuses drugs. Either way i feel bad for Amy Winehouse and her family and wish them well. I was a fan of her artistry (i also think its funny when people call singers artist) and i am sad she died. Who knows maybe it will turn out that she didnt even die of drugs.

I saw Nick Swardson stand up (on my tv) over the weekend and thought this was pretty funny too:

Nick Swardson - Alcohol Poisoning - Video Clip | Comedy Central's Jokes.com

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I cant help but think its kind of funny when people call drug and alcohol abuse a disease. Its like lets say you were dying of MS and someone said yeah i know how tough that is, my dad had a disease he died of.... he was a cocaine addict. Its got to be hard on your family too.

I think people label drug abuse a disease because it makes it easier for them to apply pity and cope with a friend, family member, or famous person that abuses drugs. Either way i feel bad for Amy Winehouse and her family and wish them well. I was a fan of her artistry (i also think its funny when people call singers artist) and i am sad she died. Who knows maybe it will turn out that she didnt even die of drugs.

I saw Nick Swardson stand up (on my tv) over the weekend and thought this was pretty funny too:

Nick Swardson - Alcohol Poisoning - Video Clip | Comedy Central's Jokes.com

Drug and alcohol abuse are not diseases; however, the underlying addiction that causes such abuse - preventing the addict from stopping behavior she knows is killing her - is a disease under any definition of that word. I think the argument Saden was trying to make is that people suffering from drug addiction are more culpable in their own affliction than people battling something like MS. I think that's pretty hard to argue with, since drug addiction involves an at least ostensibly voluntary behavioral component, whereas MS does not. But to then conclude that a brilliant and talented drug addict who dies before she is 30 should be denied our pity because she played a mechanical role in her own demise is, I think, dumb. (And I know Saden said this.)

Nice little article on addiction as disease, holla: Addiction: The disease that lies – The Chart - CNN.com Blogs

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Drug and alcohol abuse are not diseases; however, the underlying addiction that causes such abuse - preventing the addict from stopping behavior she knows is killing her - is a disease under any definition of that word. I think the argument Saden was trying to make is that people suffering from drug addiction are more culpable in their own affliction than people battling something like MS. I think that's pretty hard to argue with, since drug addiction involves an at least ostensibly voluntary behavioral component, whereas MS does not. But to then conclude that a brilliant and talented drug addict who dies before she is 30 should be denied our pity because she played a mechanical role in her own demise is, I think, dumb. (And I know Saden said this.)

Nice little article on addiction as disease, holla: Addiction: The disease that lies – The Chart - CNN.com Blogs

I thinks its a mental disorder thats inherient in drug abusers. Its along the lines of depression, schizophrenia or the need to sign any possible kind of good wr you can get your hands on, all of which i dont really consider diseases. Theyre mental disorders.