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[BIGREDSKINFAN63]

personall,i would have taken mark clayton and braylon edwards before williams.the more you looked at them,the less impressive williams looked.

[RedskinsJunkie]

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINFAN63

personall,i would have taken mark clayton and braylon edwards before williams.the more you looked at them,the less impressive williams looked.

Holy cow, give me some of what you are smoking... The Skins could not have taken Clayton because he is the same as every other WR we have on the roster (Especially Patten and Moss) and Edwards will be one of the biggest busts ever in the NFL. No Michigan WR has ever panned out. Only one to have a decent career has been Toomer. By the time it is over Edwards won't even have Toomer numbers.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by RedskinsJunkie

Holy cow, give me some of what you are smoking... The Skins could not have taken Clayton because he is the same as every other WR we have on the roster (Especially Patten and Moss) and Edwards will be one of the biggest busts ever in the NFL. No Michigan WR has ever panned out. Only one to have a decent career has been Toomer. By the time it is over Edwards won't even have Toomer numbers.

I don't know what kind of pro Edwards will be, but I don't think he's an automatic bust because he came from Michigan. By the same logic, we shouldn't have played Doug Williams in the Super Bowl because no black quarterback had ever won it. Each player has his own strengths, and when they are catered to, the player has a chance of success.

[RedskinsJunkie]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

I don't know what kind of pro Edwards will be, but I don't think he's an automatic bust because he came from Michigan. By the same logic, we shouldn't have played Doug Williams in the Super Bowl because no black quarterback had ever won it. Each player has his own strengths, and when they are catered to, the player has a chance of success.

You can't compare different types of receivers and their sizes or where they played school to them being black or white. They are men... equal men. What I am saying is that The guy before me was saying that both of those players listed would be better than Mike Williams, and everyone seems to forget that just because M. Williams was out of school for a year he isn't that good. He would have crushed Edwards stats if he played just 3 years....

[Phinehas]

Personally, I don't see what Michael Williams could bring that Darnarien McCants cannot. We need to get away from the big splashy players, not go out and spend millions for a name that will end up costing us in the sort of role players that really count. Take a cue from the Pats. It's about the team, not individual talent.

Beyond that, Williams isn't the right kind of receiver for us anyway. You want speed to stretch out the defense. The long threat opens up the running game and vice versa. If we were going to spend big money on a marquee reciever, we'd be better off going for blazing speed--something which Williams has in short supply. Santana Moss is the right sort of reciever in that regard, and McCants is a perfectly acceptable possession and red zone specialist. Let's build a solid, consistent team around the talent we have instead of sacrificing everything for the big name player.

--Phinehas

[RedskinsJunkie]

Originally Posted by Phinehas

Personally, I don't see what Michael Williams could bring that Darnarien McCants cannot. We need to get away from the big splashy players, not go out and spend millions for a name that will end up costing us in the sort of role players that really count. Take a cue from the Pats. It's about the team, not individual talent.

Beyond that, Williams isn't the right kind of receiver for us anyway. You want speed to stretch out the defense. The long threat opens up the running game and vice versa. If we were going to spend big money on a marquee reciever, we'd be better off going for blazing speed--something which Williams has in short supply. Santana Moss is the right sort of reciever in that regard, and McCants is a perfectly acceptable possession and red zone specialist. Let's build a solid, consistent team around the talent we have instead of sacrificing everything for the big name player.

--Phinehas

I love McCants, but Gibbs isn't that big on him. Santana will give you 9-13 games a year and he is a solid WR. I am ok with staying away from splashy signings but if you have a 9th pick in the draft, he is going to command less money than the 8th pick and more than the 10th. Everyone loves to talk about the Pats and teamwork and I love that, but they have a completely different scheme of offense and they have a much better QB to spread the ball around effectively. You can not build a WR core on speed alone. Yes they stretch the field but if your scheme is slants and bubble screens it doesn't matter how many burners you have. Mike Williams would have been perfect for this offense. He has amazing hands and is a huge target and can go up for the jump-ball too. My favorite receiver from the Skins is Gary Clark so I am not just saying I like Williams because of his big name, I think he fits a role our team needs.