Kellen Winslow hurt again

[skinsfanthru&thru]

didn't any pro athletes learn from the jason williams incident 2 years ago?

winslow jr is a prime example of an immature attitude ruining the respect/acknowledgement his actual accomplishments would normally garner. I am nothing even close to a fan of him as a person, but anyone saying he doesn't have possibly good-great football talent especially at TE needs to evaluate their football knowledge. Sure his name added extra hype onto him as did following in the shoes of Shockey at "The U.", but he has the physical talents to be better than both shockey and his father, which is nothing to sneeze at.

I do think it's ironic that karma keeps bitting him in the ass, but as with TO, just cuz he's a classless person at times off the field, doesn't mean he's a bum on the field.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

I do think it's ironic that karma keeps bitting him in the ass, but as with TO, just cuz he's a classless person at times off the field, doesn't mean he's a bum on the field.

You know I really could care less as to how good Winslow is or can be. What really gets me is how Winslow f**ks up during the off season and people here stick up for him, but when our own Taylor does not show up to volentary workouts people come down on him like he is the anti-christ. I dont get it!! I understand that Taylor is on our team, and that yeah it would be nice if he was at the workouts, but Taylor isnt riding his motorcycle into curbs while wearing an unstrapped helmet. Taylor does have some issues, but he is the ripe old age of what 21? 22?

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

You know I really could care less as to how good Winslow is or can be. What really gets me is how Winslow f**ks up during the off season and people here stick up for him, but when our own Taylor does not show up to volentary workouts people come down on him like he is the anti-christ. I dont get it!! I understand that Taylor is on our team, and that yeah it would be nice if he was at the workouts, but Taylor isnt riding his motorcycle into curbs while wearing an unstrapped helmet. Taylor does have some issues, but he is the ripe old age of what 21? 22?

So what's your point? That we should give Taylor a pass because Winslow's behavior is worse. I think Taylor deserves every ounce of criticism he has garnered. He's leaving the team out to dry.

Also, I don't think anyone is defending Winslow riding a motorcycle. People - and I think this is mostly Dasael, whom I agree with - is just saying that he will be a great player if he can make it on the field, and that he wasn't overrated coming out of college. All good points.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

So what's your point? That we should give Taylor a pass because Winslow's behavior is worse. I think Taylor deserves every ounce of criticism he has garnered. He's leaving the team out to dry.

Also, I don't think anyone is defending Winslow riding a motorcycle. People - and I think this is mostly Dasael, whom I agree with - is just saying that he will be a great player if he can make it on the field, and that he wasn't overrated coming out of college. All good points.

My point is that you have people on here saying "just cuz he's a classless person at times off the field, doesn't mean he's a bum on the field," in reference to Winslow. Well Taylor is deamed as a "classless person at times off the feild" but after having the season that he had last year he clearly is not a bum on the field. At least Taylor played last year, and God willing, he will play again this year.

I am not saying nor did I ever say that Winslow was underrated or overrated comming out of college, nor did I say he would be a bust. In case you missed my intro I said "You know I really could care less as to how good Winslow is or can be." And that is the truth, I could care less if he is the best TE or a total bust big deal!!!

All I am saying is that look at how fast people on here defend players on other teams than there own. Yeah Taylor is not at the voluntary workouts, but atleast he is WORKING OUT!!

Another point I was trying to make is that Taylor is young. When people are young they usually make mistakes, hell even when people are old they make mistakes. The difference is that older people tend to make new mistakes due to them learning from there old mistakes.

If Taylor shows up this year out of shape and he really flops on the field then I will agree that he was wrong and should have had an electric coller on him so that the FO could keep him in check...

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

My point is that you have people on here saying "just cuz he's a classless person at times off the field, doesn't mean he's a bum on the field," in reference to Winslow. Well Taylor is deamed as a "classless person at times off the feild" but after having the season that he had last year he clearly is not a bum on the field. At least Taylor played last year, and God willing, he will play again this year.

I don't know if u were putting me in the group of those bashing Taylor, but I don't ever remember me personally putting Taylor in the same ego category as TO and Winslow Jr. I have bashed him, and deservedly so, for the almost continuous(sp?) string of mistakes on Taylor's part. I know I've said the kid is a beast physically on a regular basis, but there comes a point for fans when off the field stuff becomes as important as the work on the field. I'm personally one of those fans that come to that point earlier than others( I mean look at all the morons in San Fran giving Barry Bonds a standing ovation even though there's a good chance he and his recent accomplishments are tainted, but because he plays for their team, they don't really seem to care). Yeah he's young, but if that's the source of the big argument, Winslow(since he's the main topic of this thread) in comparision is only 21 as well. To me they are both potentially great football players, but so far have proven to be asses off the field, Taylor with his actions and Winslow with his mouth.

Originally Posted by Daseal

The personal attacks I'll never understand. The guy is a baller and we'd all be saying OMG I HOPE HE IS BETTER BY CAMP had we picked him like many experts thought.

I had the same thoughts about Winslow's accident. If he'd been drafted here or if he didn't regularly say stupid things and had his ego a bit more under control, the majority of the reaction to his accident would be completely the opposite of what it has been and that's kind of sad.

[offiss]

All this talk about his injuries and I have yet to see anywhere the extent of his injuries, does anyone know? Will they keep him out of the lineup this season?

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by offiss

All this talk about his injuries and I have yet to see anywhere the extent of his injuries, does anyone know? Will they keep him out of the lineup this season?

Everyone has been tight lipped about his injuries. Part of the reason little has come out is that there are interal injuries. Tests are needed to find out the extent of the injuries. There was swelling that the doctors wanted to wait on before they did further tests. My guess is that the public will hear something in 2-3 days but that it may be a few months before he can play or practice.