How far can Beck take us?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Peter Kings gives good insight here on Beck and Kyle Shanahan wanting to draft him

Philadelphia Eagles can redo*contracts for Michael Vick,*DeSean*Jackson and still be under NFL cap - Peter King - SI.com

And what is Kyle Shanahan's qualifications for scouting QB's?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

And what is Kyle Shanahan's qualifications for scouting QB's?

He's significantly more qualified than you or me, or anyone else here.

He works in the NFL doesn't he?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He's significantly more qualified than you or me, or anyone else here.

He works in the NFL doesn't he?

agreed. but that's not saying much either.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

agreed. but that's not saying much either.

I think it says plenty.

He grew up in a football household, he played high school and college ball, and he started out in coaching 8 years ago. I think he knows a thing or two about the game.

I studied every potential Xs and Os play and issue possible. I spent my whole life working on that. My goal was that any question a player could have about anything on the field, I'd be able to answer it. - Kyle Shanahan.

Trying to sell him short because of his Dad is pretty lame.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think it says plenty.

He grew up in a football household, he played high school and college ball, and he started out in coaching 8 years ago. I think he knows a thing or two about the game.



Trying to sell him short because of his Dad is pretty lame.

Your response is lame cause I'm not questioning his X and O knowledge! I think Kyle knows his stuff about offense. He is where is cause of his dad. But that doesn't mean he's not good at what he does. I'm questioning his talent evaluation of John Beck. I saw the guy play when he was a rookie and I didn't see anything that made me believe that he was going to be good. He throws a bad ball, doesn't spin it and couldn't play in bad weather.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Your response is lame cause I'm not questioning his X and O knowledge! I think Kyle knows his stuff about offense. He is where is cause of his dad. But that doesn't mean he's not good at what he does. I'm questioning his talent evaluation of John Beck. I saw the guy play when he was a rookie and I didn't see anything that made me believe that he was going to be good. He throws a bad ball, doesn't spin it and couldn't play in bad weather.

lol give me a break, you're basing your opinion on a few games you saw on TV, meanwhile KS has broken down hours of tape on the guy and also works with him personally.

But yeah, you're the expert questioning his credentials.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol give me a break, you're basing your opinion on a few games you saw on TV, meanwhile KS has broken down hours of tape on the guy and also works with him personally.

But yeah, you're the expert questioning his credentials.

Yep. With the really good young QB's you can see if they AT LEAST have the talent. You can see that Sam Bradford has the talent. You can see that Josh Freeman has the talent. You can see that Matt Ryan has what it takes. I didn't see that "it" factor when I saw John Beck play. Even going way back, you could even see that early on, Gus was better than Heath. If Ozzie Newsome and Bill Parcells is giving the guy away for a ham sandwich then that tells you something. I put waaaaaaaaaaay more stock into what they think vs. Kyle Shanahan. We'll see.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He's significantly more qualified than you or me, or anyone else here.

He works in the NFL doesn't he?

A BIG reason he's in the position that he's in is because of his dad. If not for his dad would he have been an offensive coordinator for two NFL teams? No.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

And what is Kyle Shanahan's qualifications for scouting QB's?

...and your qualifications are??

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

A BIG reason he's in the position that he's in is because of his dad. If not for his dad would he have been an offensive coordinator for two NFL teams? No.

He started out as basically a intern. He earned his way up the ladder.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

...and your qualifications are??





He started out as basically a intern. He earned his way up the ladder.

I never said my qualifaications are better than his. They're not. But he's where he is today cause of his dad. I never said he didn't work hard. They're guys in the NFL that have been coaching for years and have never had the chance to run an offense. Doors opened for him and he's taking advantage of that. But in my opinion, if he thinks Beck can be an NFL starter he's sadly mistaken. The Shanahans think Beck is better than any of the guys that came out this year. We'll see. But if Gabbert turns out to be legit then heads might roll.

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I never said my qualifaications are better than his. They're not. But he's where he is today cause of his dad. I never said he didn't work hard. They're guys in the NFL that have been coaching for years and have never had the chance to run an offense. Doors opened for him and he's taking advantage of that. But in my opinion, if he thinks Beck can be an NFL starter he's sadly mistaken. The Shanahans think Beck is better than any of the guys that came out this year. We'll see. But if Gabbert turns out to be legit then heads might roll.

His Dad might have originally opened a few doors for him but ultimately he has to keep himself in the room. If he'd have failed it wouldnt matter who his Dad is, he'd be gone.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

His Dad might have originally opened a few doors for him but ultimately he has to keep himself in the room. If he'd have failed it wouldnt matter who his Dad is, he'd be gone.

This.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I never said my qualifaications are better than his. They're not. But he's where he is today cause of his dad. I never said he didn't work hard. They're guys in the NFL that have been coaching for years and have never had the chance to run an offense. Doors opened for him and he's taking advantage of that. But in my opinion, if he thinks Beck can be an NFL starter he's sadly mistaken. The Shanahans think Beck is better than any of the guys that came out this year. We'll see. But if Gabbert turns out to be legit then heads might roll.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I'm definitely giving it a wait and see what happens on the field stance before I go assuming things about Beck. My gut feeling is that he won't play the entire season, but I could be very wrong.