ESPN Makes Up New QB Stat

[Mechanix544]

I believe this stat is an overall barometer for the value that the QB has for each and every play to his team. It does seem that it (TQBR) lowers the value for the "moving the chains" type passes, the short 5 yard slants called on an audible, where one could be broken for a huge gain. One thing that this new system would have a hard time doing is adjusting stats based on game situations during the current game. How can this system adjust the ratings to involve audibles or in game decisions made by a quarterback that positively affect other players performances. It seems that this rating would give a majority of the "responsibility points" to the guy on the other end of the pass who takes a short one for a big gain. Is there a "watered down" version that they will use during in game broadcasts so that they can give an overall description on the value of the quarterbacks play for that given game? I dont see a very accurate way that the TQBR can be accurately projected during in game broadcasts, as the rating depends heavily on situational statistics, and you possibly wouldnt know if a situation, or the stats during a given situation, were inflated at any point during a game, until late in the game, or afterwards.

Seems like a hard rating to gauge in "real time". My thought is there should be a watered down, less situational adjusted version to use for broadcasts, and then release the "TQBR" for each quarterback that played the previous day on Sportscenter weekly after every football week. Kinda like how everyone waits for each specific sites "Power Rankings", Sportscenter could incorporate this into something that is released on Tuesday that everyone is looking forward to. "SC is releasing the TQBRs today, lets see how so and so REALLY fared this week......" type thing.

[30gut]

I like the TQBR (it confirms many of my personal QB rankings via observation).
Its not perfect but its a clear upgrade and more meaningful stat the current QBR(passer rating).

But, I have a question about sacks.
It seems that sacks are always counted against the QB.
But, if so that seems wrong headed imo.
Sure some sacks are the QBs fault but some sacks are clearly the fault of the pass protection and shouldn't count against the QB.

I think the TQBR should have component stats that create/ help them arrive at the TQBR.

I.E.-

o number of sacks due to QB fault vs. pass protection

o number of 'clutch' drives

o how much of a given QBs stats: yards, TDs etc are meaningful vs. garbage time

etc.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I like the TQBR (it confirms many of my personal QB rankings via observation).
Its not perfect but its a clear upgrade and more meaningful stat the current QBR(passer rating).

But, I have a question about sacks.
It seems that sacks are always counted against the QB.
But, if so that seems wrong headed imo.
Sure some sacks are the QBs fault but some sacks are clearly the fault of the pass protection and shouldn't count against the QB.

Case in point the Bears and Jay Cutler.
They give up a ton of sacks wether Jay Cutler is behind center or not and that's because their OL stinks...on ice.
(They even stink in preseason)
But, it would appear that Jay Cutler's TQBR is negatively effected by the Bears porus OL.