Haynesworth to the Patriots for a 5th rounder.

[NLC1054]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

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Some poor deluded souls in New England...lol

I liked how one of the commenters said something to the effect of "Haynesworth will be better because Belichick is a displinarian."

Because, you know. Mike wasn't.

I'm kind of annoyed at Belichick, to be honest. Switching back to a 4-3 defense. I think if Mike knew that he wouldn't have traded there. He got traded to a 3-4 team for a reason. Haynesworth hasn't been practicing, but if he has anything close to a decent season we're going to hear about Bill's Patriot way.

Albert finally gets what he wants---a 4-3 team, and a coach who will probably let him do whatever he wants. Friggin' annoying.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

I liked how one of the commenters said something to the effect of "Haynesworth will be better because Belichick is a displinarian."

Because, you know. Mike wasn't.

I'm kind of annoyed at Belichick, to be honest. Switching back to a 4-3 defense. I think if Mike knew that he wouldn't have traded there. He got traded to a 3-4 team for a reason. Haynesworth hasn't been practicing, but if he has anything close to a decent season we're going to hear about Bill's Patriot way.

Albert finally gets what he wants---a 4-3 team, and a coach who will probably let him do whatever he wants. Friggin' annoying.

Smart coach. Tailor your scheme to fit your players, not the other way around.

[NLC1054]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Smart coach. Tailor your scheme to fit your players, not the other way around.

Yeah, when it comes to Haynesworth, nothing short of "let me do what I want and rush the quarterback on ever down" is "tailoring your scheme".

Also, taking a fat paycheck and then becoming a fat, lazy load who takes plays off doesn't tend to garner much respect.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

Yeah, when it comes to Haynesworth, nothing short of "let me do what I want and rush the quarterback on ever down" is "tailoring your scheme".

Also, taking a fat paycheck and then becoming a fat, lazy load who takes plays off doesn't tend to garner much respect.

You have the sequence wrong here...

Albert Haynesworth was a lazy - - and anti-social - - toad who took plays off while he was at the Univ of Tennessee and when he played for the Tennessee Titans. Then he had a great year in his "contract year".

The Redskins "brain trust" ignored his career-long history of being a lazy, anti-social toad and loooked only at his "contract year performance". Then they handed him a monster contract somehow thinking that having all that money would change his natural behavior. Two words here: Not - - - Happening...

Then after a lackluster first year here, the Redskins new "brain trust" handed him a check for $21M after he gave them "Scout's Honor" that he would do what the coaches told him to do. Two words here: Not - - - Happening...

Haynesworth was a toad before the Skins signed him; the Skins made him an uber-rich toad; now, he is behaving like a toad in New England. He is consistent in his "toad-ness". The Redskins took two years and about $30M to figure it out.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Then after a lackluster first year here, the Redskins new "brain trust" handed him a check for $21M after he gave them "Scout's Honor" that he would do what the coaches told him to do. Two words here: Not - - - Happening...

Haynesworth was a toad before the Skins signed him; the Skins made him an uber-rich toad; now, he is behaving like a toad in New England. He is consistent in his "toad-ness". The Redskins took two years and about $30M to figure it out.

Lets be honest. That $21 million advance was given to him so it would be easier to move him from that point on without killing the cap should the worse come to pass. Obviously last year the worse did indeed come to pass. If I remember correctly there is no dead cap from the Haynesworth trade and if there is it's very little.

Basically Bruce Allen saw an opportunity to protect the teams future when the cap came back and decided to take advantage of the uncapped year.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Lets be honest. That $21 million advance was given to him so it would be easier to move him from that point on without killing the cap should the worse come to pass. Obviously last year the worse did indeed come to pass. If I remember correctly there is no dead cap from the Haynesworth trade and if there is it's very little.

Basically Bruce Allen saw an opportunity to protect the teams future when the cap came back and decided to take advantage of the uncapped year.

Well, let's pretend that you are correct here for a moment.

If what you say is true, then the Redskins only owed Haynesworth something less than $21M as a roster bonus last April. I am not sure that is true, but let me assume it is. So how much less did they owe him? Let's assume it was only $15M for the sake of argument.

Your contention is that they paid Haynesworth $21M to protect their future salary cap and to make it easier to "move him on".

So, how did that work out?

Even if you give Bruce Allen genius points for tossing in a few extra millions of dollars to "protect the cap" and also to relieve future teams from the burden of the stupid contract, what they got for Haynesworth was this:

12 games of half-assed effort
4 games of suspension with the rest of the team giving a sign of relief
An off-season of question marks about Haynesworth
A low-round draft pick.

Look at that record and tell me it was worth $21M - - or even $15M?

Would the Redskins be in worse shape today if they had simply released Haynesworth and not paid him a dime in April 2010? I really don't think so...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Smart coach. Tailor your scheme to fit your players, not the other way around.

I think most coaches do a little of both.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think most coaches do a little of both.

I guess then what sets them apart is that some do it more effectively than others.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

I liked how one of the commenters said something to the effect of "Haynesworth will be better because Belichick is a displinarian."

Because, you know. Mike wasn't.

I'm kind of annoyed at Belichick, to be honest. Switching back to a 4-3 defense. I think if Mike knew that he wouldn't have traded there. He got traded to a 3-4 team for a reason. Haynesworth hasn't been practicing, but if he has anything close to a decent season we're going to hear about Bill's Patriot way.

Albert finally gets what he wants---a 4-3 team, and a coach who will probably let him do whatever he wants. Friggin' annoying.

That's one thing you cannot say about Belichick.