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John Beck 123 73.65%
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:14 PM   #1
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Lol No I see the point I mean it happens to all the QBs but Rex has done this his whole career.
and..... the others have not?

Brady- 151 games, 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 140 INT's.
EManning- 111 games, 118 INT's.
Stafford- 19 games, 25 INT's.
Roethlisberger- 105 games, 92 INT's.
Vick- 104 games, 66 INT's.

Grossman- 46 games, 49 INT's.

I'm soo glad EManning and Stafford suck just as much as Grossman. I wonder when those respected teams will start chanting for the 2nd stringer.
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:39 PM   #2
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?

For the record I don't hate Rex Grossman and I wanted him to be a good QB for us but he's just not, 9INTs in 4 games? CMON folks
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:48 PM   #3
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For the record I don't hate Rex Grossman and I wanted him to be a good QB for us but he's just not, 9INTs in 4 games? CMON folks
Come on man. I'm betting hardly so. The only reason some of the fans felt as you said was because he was named the starter. Trust me I wanted Beck because of all the hype in the off season. I wanted Beck because of the fact he's more mobile. But the coach's saw something else. Something we didn't see.

All I'm saying is perhaps it's not all Rex. But we fans are quick to ship him because of the INT ratio per game.

I'll gladly eat crow come the next few weeks when Beck has to face more talented teams then the Panthers and can put the points on the board a long with cutting down on the INT's. But I just doubt that I'm going to half to. Nothing against Beck, I'm just saying I think we are going to see the same if not similar results from Beck .... who seems to be some fans savior for the season.
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Come on man. I'm betting hardly so. The only reason some of the fans felt as you said was because he was named the starter. Trust me I wanted Beck because of all the hype in the off season. I wanted Beck because of the fact he's more mobile. But the coach's saw something else. Something we didn't see.

All I'm saying is perhaps it's not all Rex. But we fans are quick to ship him because of the INT ratio per game.

I'll gladly eat crow come the next few weeks when Beck has to face more talented teams then the Panthers and can put the points on the board a long with cutting down on the INT's. But I just doubt that I'm going to half to. Nothing against Beck, I'm just saying I think we are going to see the same if not similar results from Beck .... who seems to be some fans savior for the season.
These coaches tied themselves up because they have to give the job to the competition winner, in which case was CLEARLY Rex at that time. That doesn't mean their decisions are ultimately right, as LJ and Galloway have already shown, and Stallworth and Banks are showing us once again.
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?

And those other QB's have like 17 Tds by now also except Cam and he's a rookie that will be a superstar
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And those other QB's have like 17 Tds by now also except Cam and he's a rookie that will be a superstar

This statement is incorrect also.

Some of them do some don't.

Brady- 16 TD's , 8 INT's.
Brees- 13 TD's , 8 INT's.
EManning- 11 TD's , 5 INT's.
Romo- 8 TD's, 6 INT's.
Roethlisberger- 9 TD's, 6 INT's.
Vick- 9 TD's , 8 INT's.
Rivers- 6 TD's , 7 INT's.

All I'm saying is we fans are quick to point the finger at the QB, no matter who's in the game, but we don't know who's fault it's been actually on each play. Only the coaching staff would know if the WR failed to run the right route, if the QB made the correct decision with where he threw the ball. On top of that what about the dropped balls by the receivers? clearly that should not count against either QB who starts.
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?

Rex won the QB "competition". Shanny is a genius.
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what about the ones who say all those Grossman INT werent his fault? those are my favs
Some, not all. Anyhow, been watching some game tape and my concern isn't so much the Interceptions. It's that guys are getting wide open and he's missing them.
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Some, not all. Anyhow, been watching some game tape and my concern isn't so much the Interceptions. It's that guys are getting wide open and he's missing them.
Pick #3 intended for Davis seemed like it was FD's fault all the way.

Anyone notice after that pick they showed Cooley talking to Rex on the sideline, probably asking him what happened. Rex says something and you could see Cooley say "F that". I'm assuming Rex probably said Davis effed up the route.
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Pick #3 intended for Davis seemed like it was FD's fault all the way.

Anyone notice after that pick they showed Cooley talking to Rex on the sideline, probably asking him what happened. Rex says something and you could see Cooley say "F that". I'm assuming Rex probably said Davis effed up the route.
Grossman Puts Eagles Game In the Past

INT No. 3: Eighth drive, the Redskins trailed 21-6 and face a second-and-12 at the Eagles’ 21-yard line. Formation was 4WR-ORB-1WR. Four-man rush vs. five-man protection. Grossman again looked for Davis on deep post but the tape intimates that Davis hesitated on breaking off his route, which allowed Coleman to make his second interception.

Grossman: “Some of these, you have to trust the other people to make a cut to cross a safety’s face. I’m not saying Fred didn’t do that but when things are tight, you have to make a quick decision and I was trusting he was going to make a cut. But he wasn’t able to.”

Our guess: Hearing Grossman’s post-game session, it guaranteed further examination and the Davis’ hiccup showed what was going on. Add to that Shanahan’s short reveal that a benching depends on who is at fault equals that Davis made the error and earned Grossman another series.
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?

This is pretty insightful,

Playing Redskins' INT guessing game

I'll go back to saying put Beck and lets hope it all works out especially with the long ball but if the receivers are not going after the ball or fighting for it we will see more of the same.
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?

and I always hate to hear this.....

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Grossman Puts Eagles Game In the Past

I think if you don't go back and see what went wrong, and look to how to fix it your destined to repeat history. The coaching staff refused to go back and watch last years game to see what went wrong and not allow it to happen again, and it happened again. So I guess the coaching staff would prefer to go that route again and just throw out this film thinking this game was a fluke also.
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Who says they're not going back and watching the game?
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Who says they're not going back and watching the game?
Well after the 59-28 loss last year MS said he was going to toss out the film and not watch it because there was nothing to get out of it.

Now we hear Rex say you have to throw that game away. Now he might not have meant it in that context and I could be wrong but, no you can't just avoid watching it because it was an extremely bad game and you don't think your that bad.
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Well after the 59-28 loss last year MS said he was going to toss out the film and not watch it because there was nothing to get out of it.

Now we hear Rex say you have to throw that game away. Now he might not have meant it in that context and I could be wrong but, no you can't just avoid watching it because it was an extremely bad game and you don't think your that bad.
I can see tossing last year's game. Sometimes it's better to just move on.

I don't see where Rex said anything about not watching this one though, he's just saying he's not going to dwell on it.
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