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Old 10-03-2011, 08:37 AM   #1
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Re: Week 3 TQBR Rankings

NFL - Week 4 Total QBR Leaders - ESPN
NFL - Week 4 Total QBR Season Leaders - ESPN

Rodgers has surged back to the top.

It seems like this stat may overstate the "goodness" of a performance when the sample size is small.

How about that Matt Hasslebeck. Who knew he would revive his career down there in Tennessee
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:57 AM   #2
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^Eli and Schaub really have surged up the charts
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:27 AM   #3
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Yeah Matt Hasselbeck has really suprised me so far. The Titans are looking good with him at qb.
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:52 PM   #4
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surprise, grossman is in the middle at 46.9... average.
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:06 PM   #5
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surprise, grossman is in the middle at 46.9... average.
And a bigger surprise? Campbell is statistically in the top 10, yet nobody thinks he's the reason the Raiders have won or lost any of their games.

Which is pretty much what I thought while he was here.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:27 PM   #6
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And a bigger surprise? Campbell is statistically in the top 10, yet nobody thinks he's the reason the Raiders have won or lost any of their games.

Which is pretty much what I thought while he was here.
Its not really a surprise to some.
And some people do think Campbell is a key part of the Raiders success.
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:48 PM   #7
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grossman is finally average! yay!
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:00 PM   #8
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Matt Hasselbeck doing his best late-career Boomer Esiason impression.

Our QB next season, Chad Henne, still ranks in the top ten despite having to run daycare for Reggie Bush and Brandon Marshall. But he's injured now, which I guess just drops the price.
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:49 PM   #9
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Not a big fan of any stats that come from a TV network. I understand the work that's being done and the reasoning behind it. But it's just another tool to use in a player evaluation and has too many subjective areas in it.

I like the old QB rating, just give me the raw numbers, no analysis. I can do that myself by looking at the game. To me this is a case of statistical analysis gone wild, this stuff may work for baseball which has far less variables, even to a degree in basketball. But far too many variables to accurately account for in football.

I don't need a stat to tell me that I'd rather have Elway, Unitas, Starr or Baugh under center for me rather than Pennington, Culpepper, Schaub or Flacco.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:35 PM   #10
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What source are you a fan of then for stats?
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Re: Week 3 TQBR Rankings

Traditional QB rating of Shanahan coached QB's only means so much. With Shanahan you're going to have a lot of guys that are throwing under 60% due to the emphasis of trying to push the ball down field and with the current system a huge emphasis is placed on completion percentage. John Elway for example frequently was rated in the high 80's under Shanahan. Usually if the QB is rated in the high 80's that's a good sign in this system.
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Traditional QB rating of Shanahan coached QB's only means so much. With Shanahan you're going to have a lot of guys that are throwing under 60% due to the emphasis of trying to push the ball down field and with the current system a huge emphasis is placed on completion percentage. John Elway for example frequently was rated in the high 80's under Shanahan. Usually if the QB is rated in the high 80's that's a good sign in this system.
But this isn't Mike Shanahan's version of the Denver WCO this is Houston and Kyle's variant.
Kyle's offense has greater emphasis on effciency in the passing game.
If we're looking for the statistical signs of the offense running at a high level think Matt Schaub not John Elway.
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:54 PM   #13
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Re: Week 3 TQBR Rankings

StatLine Check:
PC -- PA -- YD -- % -- YPC -- TD -- LONG -- INT FUM.RATING
79 129..........1,021.....61.2.....7.92.....6........ ..61..........3.....1.....91.9

83 143............989......58.0.....6.92.....6....... ...40..........5.....2.....78.7

99 152..........1,273.....65.1.....8.38.....7........ ..77..........5.....3.....92.9

80 125..........1,066.....64.0.....8.53.....8....... 74..........2.....2.....105.6

That is the 4 NFCE QBs, anyone care to rank fill in the names? (ours ain't at the top) but i did think this was interesting to compare with out the names assoc.

edit: i hate trying to format tables on this ugh

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Old 10-05-2011, 01:44 AM   #14
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StatLine Check:
PC -- PA -- YD -- % -- YPC -- TD -- LONG -- INT FUM.RATING
79 129..........1,021.....61.2.....7.92.....6........ ..61..........3.....1.....91.9

83 143............989......58.0.....6.92.....6....... ...40..........5.....2.....78.7

99 152..........1,273.....65.1.....8.38.....7........ ..77..........5.....3.....92.9

80 125..........1,066.....64.0.....8.53.....8....... 74..........2.....2.....105.6

That is the 4 NFCE QBs, anyone care to rank fill in the names? (ours ain't at the top) but i did think this was interesting to compare with out the names assoc.

edit: i hate trying to format tables on this ugh
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Romo
Rex
Eli
Vick
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StatLine Check:
PC -- PA -- YD -- % -- YPC -- TD -- LONG -- INT FUM.RATING
Vick
79 129..........1,021.....61.2.....7.92.....6........ ..61..........3.....1.....91.9
Rex
83 143............989......58.0.....6.92.....6....... ...40..........5.....2.....78.7
Romo
99 152..........1,273.....65.1.....8.38.....7........ ..77..........5.....3.....92.9
Eli:
80 125..........1,066.....64.0.....8.53.....8....... 74..........2.....2.....105.6
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