Walter Payton Used Drugs/Suicidal

[MTK]

The game does need more safety built in. Players used to get concussions and go right back in. Not sure how that should be viewed as ok, especially with what we know now about the long term impact of head trauma. Team doctors used to hand out pain killers like candy, probably still do to an extent. You can't tell me that's a smart way of handling things either, and who knows how many addictions started that way.

[hooskins]

skinsfan69, I can't disagree with you more. There is a reason we don't have "gladiator" events and sports. They are brutal and take a toll on players' health. The reason the regulations were not in place, was because people and the league were not aware of adverse health impacts.

If research shows playing football in a particular way could impact the health of players, change the game. I love the violent aspect of the game, but my love for the game isn't greater than my concern for the adverse impact on my fellow people. Honestly, I would go so far as saying it is selfish to value a game so much that you(the collective you, not skinsfan69) would ignore or minimize the health impacts on the players.

[SmootSmack]

As I said, I don't want to derail this thread into talk about an 18 game season. I mean WP was in the league when they expanded from 14 games to 16 games, but I don't think that caused his problems.

What I think I'll remember as much as anything is that he ended his career against the Redskins. I think it was a 4th down run and he didn't get the first and then next thing you know that's it. His career is done

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As I said, I don't want to derail this thread into talk about an 18 game season. I mean WP was in the league when they expanded from 14 games to 16 games, but I don't think that caused his problems.

What I think I'll remember as much as anything is that he ended his career against the Redskins. I think it was a 4th down run and he didn't get the first and then next thing you know that's it. His career is done

Then why did you bring it up?

IMO I don't care if it is a 16 or 18 game season, they are adults they can choice not to play football.

But to say 18 game regular season sans to pre-season games is the same as a 16 game season is false advertisement.

Also IMO this topic is very relative to WP as obviously the abuse his body took in football had a profound effect on his life.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As I said, I don't want to derail this thread into talk about an 18 game season. I mean WP was in the league when they expanded from 14 games to 16 games, but I don't think that caused his problems.

What I think I'll remember as much as anything is that he ended his career against the Redskins. I think it was a 4th down run and he didn't get the first and then next thing you know that's it. His career is done

If memory serves me correctly, it was the 87 playoff game v. the bears in soldier field, which we won on D. Green's 52 yrd. punt return. I remember that last play too, I think it was a pass to W. Payton on 4th down (4th & 7 maybe?), I can't remember if he caught it or not but I do remember him walking off the field.

Mike Golic talked about that feeling this morning, that's is so sudden but you realize it's all over.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

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If memory serves me correctly, it was the 87 playoff game v. the bears in soldier field, which we won on D. Green's 52 yrd. punt return. I remember that last play too, I think it was a pass to W. Payton on 4th down (4th & 7 maybe?), I can't remember if he caught it or not but I do remember him walking off the field.

Mike Golic talked about that feeling this morning, that's is so sudden but you realize it's all over.

Oh that's right it was a pass. People forget that was a 14-2 Bears team whose defense I believe gave up fewer points than their famed 85 team. That win is one of the more underappreciated of the Gibbs' 1.0 era

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Oh that's right it was a pass. People forget that was a 14-2 Bears team whose defense I believe gave up fewer points than their famed 85 team. That win is one of the more underappreciated of the Gibbs' 1.0 era

Is that the game when Darrell Green cracked his rib leaping over a defender returning a punt?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Is that the game when Darrell Green cracked his rib leaping over a defender returning a punt?

You know what. I'm getting my years confused. That was the DG punt return game that was WP's last game. That was the 1987 season (88 playoffs) The year before is when Monk had two TD catches to lead us in a bit of an upset over the 14-2 Bears

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As I said, I don't want to derail this thread into talk about an 18 game season. I mean WP was in the league when they expanded from 14 games to 16 games, but I don't think that caused his problems.

What I think I'll remember as much as anything is that he ended his career against the Redskins. I think it was a 4th down run and he didn't get the first and then next thing you know that's it. His career is done

So, I was close, it was 4th & 8 according to this article:
Sports of The Times; Walter Payton's Last Time - New York Times

[Monkeydad]

I heard about his hair on ESPN Radio too. They're obsessed with him like a 10YO girl at a Bieber show.

[MTK]

ESPN or SI didn't write this book though.

It's perfectly relevant to report on it.

[Chico23231]

yeah its relevant. im sure it will be in my face non stop for the next week by the media. Over-report, over analyzed, and certainly taken wayyyyyyyyyyyyy outta context and exagerated.


Mean while the author can just sit back and count $$$$$.

[SmootSmack]

I retract bringing it up then. I know it's not the same, I was merely attempting to point out because I believe (maybe falsely) that others think Goodell is talking about adding 2 games to the already 20 game (including preseason) schedule. That is all

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I retract bringing it up then. I know it's not the same, I was merely attempting to point out because I believe (maybe falsely) that others think Goodell is talking about adding 2 games to the already 20 game (including preseason) schedule. That is all

Ok then I see where you are coming from then.

[CrustyRedskin]

HD Walter Payton: Sweetness - YouTube

Im glad i got to see him play