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Old 09-29-2011, 09:53 AM   #1
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Re: Walter Payton Used Drugs/Suicidal

Not to derail this thread, but even with an 18 game season the plan is for the number of games to remain the same. 2 preseason and 18 regular, as opposed to the current 4 preseason and 18 regular. So this repeated argument at least one of you here has about adding two games doesn't really fly
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Old 09-29-2011, 10:09 AM   #2
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Not to derail this thread, but even with an 18 game season the plan is for the number of games to remain the same. 2 preseason and 18 regular, as opposed to the current 4 preseason and 18 regular. So this repeated argument at least one of you here has about adding two games doesn't really fly

Then maybe you should look at it as minutes played in a season or potential minutes played because you really don't know when they will be subbed and how long offense/defense will be on the field.

Current minutes played by a starter baring injury and if they played every down.

16 x 60 = 960 regular season potential minutes
4 x 30 = 120 pre season potential minutes (this is assuming they play just half the game in pre-season, it is probable less then that)

Current total potential minutes played 1080

18 game season

18x 60 = 1080 regular season potential minutes
2 x 30 = 60 pre-season potential minutes (they actual may play more then a half in this format since they only have 2 games to beef up)

18 game schedule total potential minutes played by a starter 1140

That gives you a delta of 60 potential more minutes (a whole game) a starter would be playing (potential for injury) in the 18 game season.


If you are full time player in the NFL you will definitely see more playing time in the 18 game format then you would in the 16 game format.
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Then maybe you should look at it as minutes played in a season or potential minutes played because you really don't know when they will be subbed and how long offense/defense will be on the field.

Current minutes played by a starter baring injury and if they played every down.

16 x 60 = 960 regular season potential minutes
4 x 30 = 120 pre season potential minutes (this is assuming they play just half the game in pre-season, it is probable less then that)

Current total potential minutes played 1080

18 game season

18x 60 = 1080 regular season potential minutes
2 x 30 = 60 pre-season potential minutes (they actual may play more then a half in this format since they only have 2 games to beef up)

18 game schedule total potential minutes played by a starter 1140

That gives you a delta of 60 potential more minutes (a whole game) a starter would be playing (potential for injury) in the 18 game season.


If you are full time player in the NFL you will definitely see more playing time in the 18 game format then you would in the 16 game format.
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Old 09-29-2011, 10:10 AM   #4
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Not to derail this thread, but even with an 18 game season the plan is for the number of games to remain the same. 2 preseason and 18 regular, as opposed to the current 4 preseason and 18 regular. So this repeated argument at least one of you here has about adding two games doesn't really fly
Smoot, no way! this is my biggest pet peeve w/the argument for 18 games. We all know that starters & often used reserves don't play many downs in the preseason to begin with. The argument that 2 preseason games = 2 regular season games in terms of chance for injury is just bunk. It surely isn't an apples to apples comparison.

Coaches will play guys in the preseason as much as they need to, thus some play very little. If anything, taking 2 preseason games away will just lead to more scrimmages, unless the cba prohibits that. 4 preseason games is more for the coaches & guys trying to make the team. The avg., established player, i.e. the vets, maybe plays 4 full quarters during the entire 4 game preseason.

Not to mention, the chance of injury is greater when playing an entire game as fatigue, soreness, etc. factors in. The vast majority of guys playing most downs in the regular season are virtually never playing a full preseason game.
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smoot, no way! This is my biggest pet peeve w/the argument for 18 games. We all know that starters & often used reserves don't play many downs in the preseason to begin with. The argument that 2 preseason games = 2 regular season games in terms of chance for injury is just bunk. It surely isn't an apples to apples comparison.

Coaches will play guys in the preseason as much as they need to, thus some play very little. If anything, taking 2 preseason games away will just lead to more scrimmages, unless the cba prohibits that. 4 preseason games is more for the coaches & guys trying to make the team. The avg., established player, i.e. The vets, maybe plays 4 full quarters during the entire 4 game preseason.

Not to mention, the chance of injury is greater when playing an entire game as fatigue, soreness, etc. Factors in. The vast majority of guys playing most downs in the regular season are virtually never playing a full preseason game.
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Not to derail this thread, but even with an 18 game season the plan is for the number of games to remain the same. 2 preseason and 18 regular, as opposed to the current 4 preseason and 18 regular. So this repeated argument at least one of you here has about adding two games doesn't really fly
In 4 pre season games the starters really only play in two of them. The 3rd game and the 2nd. With an 18 game season the starters are going to put more strain on their bodies, and that's why none of them were buying the 18 game season.
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