Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo

Bucket · 10-03-2011, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Ironically Rob Jackson isn't to bad either. Granted his penalty today was a little boneheaded but when Rak has gone out with nicks and bruises these past two weeks I haven't been to worried about the dropoff, even though it's a relatively steep one from Rak to Jack.

I really think the penalty was kinda stupid. Rob couldn't tell he released the football yet and was just finishing the play. Hit him square and tackled him. Nothing wrong with that in my eyes.

You let go of him, and he still has the football? We get a flashback of what Eli did in the Super Bowl

saden1 · 10-03-2011, 01:22 AM

Couple of points:

1. Not sure if we can say Kerrigan is ROY with Von Miller playing like he has been.
2. Orakpo goes up against left tackles which are best prized bulls in the NFL.
3. Kerrigan benefits greatly from extra attention paid to Orakpo. Until Kerrigan proves he is more worthy than Orakpo of those double teams I dont think we can say he is better.
4. Kerrigan is a beast and I am so happy we have him and Orakpo.

mooby · 10-03-2011, 01:55 AM

Agreed on the first point, but at the same time we have to consider as good as Von Miller has played Kerrigan still beat him out for Defensive Rookie of the Month. If Kerrigan can put up good stats from game to game like he's been doing there's no reason it won't be a close race.

Dirtbag59 · 10-03-2011, 02:08 AM

Kerrigan is a steal at 17

Hog1 · 10-03-2011, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Kerrigan is a steal at 17

Sorry, I believe there is an error in your evaluation.
All the draft experts had Kerrigan grading out to go further down in the first round...ergo we ...foolishly took him to early. Stupid Bruce Allen
......doomed

CultBrennan59 · 10-03-2011, 02:22 AM

Just wanted to point out on NFL.com, that we're ranked 5th overall in the league in Total Defense.
6th in Rush Defense.
Tied for first w/ Philly for most sacks in the league (15).
Tied for 7th in the league in pass defense.
5th in scoring.
2nd in TD's.

polywog · 10-03-2011, 05:04 AM

It would really be hard to compare these two players.....Orakpo is a destroyer, while Kerrigan is a guy that makes plays and is incredibly heads up.

#56fanatic · 10-03-2011, 07:16 AM

I think this is something that will help form a very strong defense for the next 10 years. You have these guys locked up, (hopefully) at very early times in their careers. We have a couple of young LB's in Riley and.....(crap forgot the other guys name)..anyway, this allows us to get better around them and not have to expirement on the two most important positions on this 3-4 scheme.

I love those two together because you can't double team both of them, one is always one on one and either we get the sack, good pressure, a hit or a holding call. and with the speed and power these guys play with and the constant rushing every play i think it wears down those offensive tackles and the running game starts to struggle and by the 4th quarter they can really take over.

hooskins · 10-03-2011, 08:05 AM

Dumb question for this season because orakpo taking up other blockers makes kerrigan better.

skinsfan69 · 10-03-2011, 08:15 AM

who cares? we have two young pass rushers that we can build a defense on.

CrustyRedskin · 10-03-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

who cares? we have two young pass rushers that we can build a defense on.

Yes sir, aint it nice to kick back and enjoy!

CRedskinsRule · 10-03-2011, 08:27 AM

The real question is how good will the front 7 be if Jenkins (not cullen) comes back strong from his injury. As excited as I am about the start of this year, what is even better is the fact that this team is being built to go for a while.

SmootSmack · 10-03-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The real question is how good will the front 7 be if Jenkins (not cullen) comes back strong from his injury. As excited as I am about the start of this year, what is even better is the fact that this team is being built to go for a while.

Wow. Good call. I had completely forgotten about him

jbcjr14 · 10-03-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Wow. Good call. I had completely forgotten about him

I agree and think Jenkins will make this defense MUCH better in 2012 along with some other potential "fillers". Now just to get a few more play makers on offense and this team will contend. I am liking the direction Allen/Shanny are taking this team.

GridIron26 · 10-03-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The real question is how good will the front 7 be if Jenkins (not cullen) comes back strong from his injury. As excited as I am about the start of this year, what is even better is the fact that this team is being built to go for a while.

Indeed I was wondering about this a week ago.. It is amazing how big jump we have jumped from last year to this year, from one of worst defense in NFL to top 10. And yet Jenkins alone will make this defense better, I am looking forward to that next season.

I'm glad that Kerrigan is playing great, however the debate of possibility for Kerrigan to be better player than Orakpo is moot IMO, given that both are on same team. Also as some pointed out the fact that Orakpo is double-teamed sometimes, which gives Kerrigan opportunities to make plays. And he did. I must admit, I was one of many fans who were skeptical of the Kerrigan pick. I was not so sure that he would be able to make impact in games for us, but he proved me wrong in first game and again and again. Big props to the Redskins FO!

10-03-2011, 01:22 AM	#2
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo Couple of points: 1. Not sure if we can say Kerrigan is ROY with Von Miller playing like he has been. 2. Orakpo goes up against left tackles which are best prized bulls in the NFL. 3. Kerrigan benefits greatly from extra attention paid to Orakpo. Until Kerrigan proves he is more worthy than Orakpo of those double teams I dont think we can say he is better. 4. Kerrigan is a beast and I am so happy we have him and Orakpo. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

10-03-2011, 01:55 AM	#3
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,596	Agreed on the first point, but at the same time we have to consider as good as Von Miller has played Kerrigan still beat him out for Defensive Rookie of the Month. If Kerrigan can put up good stats from game to game like he's been doing there's no reason it won't be a close race. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

10-03-2011, 02:08 AM	#4
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo Kerrigan is a steal at 17 __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

10-03-2011, 02:22 AM	#6
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo Just wanted to point out on NFL.com, that we're ranked 5th overall in the league in Total Defense. 6th in Rush Defense. Tied for first w/ Philly for most sacks in the league (15). Tied for 7th in the league in pass defense. 5th in scoring. 2nd in TD's. __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

10-03-2011, 05:04 AM	#7
polywog Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Somewhere in Maryland.... Posts: 196	Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo It would really be hard to compare these two players.....Orakpo is a destroyer, while Kerrigan is a guy that makes plays and is incredibly heads up.

10-03-2011, 07:16 AM	#8
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo I think this is something that will help form a very strong defense for the next 10 years. You have these guys locked up, (hopefully) at very early times in their careers. We have a couple of young LB's in Riley and.....(crap forgot the other guys name)..anyway, this allows us to get better around them and not have to expirement on the two most important positions on this 3-4 scheme. I love those two together because you can't double team both of them, one is always one on one and either we get the sack, good pressure, a hit or a holding call. and with the speed and power these guys play with and the constant rushing every play i think it wears down those offensive tackles and the running game starts to struggle and by the 4th quarter they can really take over.

10-03-2011, 08:05 AM	#9
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 39 Posts: 8,606	Dumb question for this season because orakpo taking up other blockers makes kerrigan better. __________________ Vacancy

10-03-2011, 08:15 AM	#10
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,592	Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo who cares? we have two young pass rushers that we can build a defense on.

10-03-2011, 08:27 AM	#12
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 59 Posts: 21,744	Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo The real question is how good will the front 7 be if Jenkins (not cullen) comes back strong from his injury. As excited as I am about the start of this year, what is even better is the fact that this team is being built to go for a while.

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