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[44ever]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Whoever thought that going into a season with John Beck and Rex Grossman as the only quarterbacks would come back to bite us?

I dont think we should put Beck and Grossman in the same category until Beck is given a chance to prove himself. Grossman had his chance and failed as expected. (By some of us)

There is always the chance that Beck can do some good. He without a doubt makes Grossman look like slow motion.

I think given the chance Beck can lead the Redskins. He just seems to have much more raw talent and awareness than Grossman.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44ever

I dont think we should put Beck and Grossman in the same category until Beck is given a chance to prove himself. Grossman had his chance and failed as expected. (By some of us)

There is always the chance that Beck can do some good. He without a doubt makes Grossman look like slow motion.

I think given the chance Beck can lead the Redskins. He just seems to have much more raw talent and awareness than Grossman.

If today didn't provide enough evidence that Beck can't make the throws necessary to lead the offense, this is going to be a long season of trying to explain to people that the QB situation sucks.

Look, John Beck lost a QB competition to Rex Grossman five years into his career. Might the Redskins have no choice but to turn to Beck and hope for the best? Perhaps. Does that mean that our offense is so incredibly limited that we have no choice but to play a career backup? That's the obvious read here.

If the offense is so inept that Grossman is going to be put in bad situations where he can turn the ball over all season, then it's not an offense that is going to make Beck a success story. If we're making a quarterback change to limit the damaged caused by the quarterback, then fine, play John Beck.

But then we need to realize that the bar for the offense is being set at "I hope we have fewer turnovers than touchdowns." Such is the only standard in which Beck can achieve success.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If today didn't provide enough evidence that Beck can't make the throws necessary to lead the offense, this is going to be a long season of trying to explain to people that the QB situation sucks.

Look, John Beck lost a QB competition to Rex Grossman five years into his career. Might the Redskins have no choice but to turn to Beck and hope for the best? Perhaps. Does that mean that our offense is so incredibly limited that we have no choice but to play a career backup? That's the obvious read here.

If the offense is so inept that Grossman is going to be put in bad situations where he can turn the ball over all season, then it's not an offense that is going to make Beck a success story. If we're making a quarterback change to limit the damaged caused by the quarterback, then fine, play John Beck.

But then we need to realize that the bar for the offense is being set at "I hope we have fewer turnovers than touchdowns." Such is the only standard in which Beck can achieve success.

I've seen Beck make the throws he didn't make today, iv'e also seen the WR's like Gaffney and Stallworth make the catches they didn't make either. You guys are reading between the lines to much.

Out of 15 throws. I remember 4 being dropped, and he completed 8. He also put together our ONLY touchdown drive of the game. I'm not saying Beck is the next Elway because I have no idea, but that goes the same for a guy saying a QB cannot make the throws and we are limited to average play from him by seeing those "15 throws"

He came in and did what he could with what he was given. How about we give it till next week to start calling out what we think Beck is right now?

I remember people saying Alex Smith couldn't do it.... Just saying...

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If today didn't provide enough evidence that Beck can't make the throws necessary to lead the offense, this is going to be a long season of trying to explain to people that the QB situation sucks.

Look, John Beck lost a QB competition to Rex Grossman five years into his career. Might the Redskins have no choice but to turn to Beck and hope for the best? Perhaps. Does that mean that our offense is so incredibly limited that we have no choice but to play a career backup? That's the obvious read here.

If the offense is so inept that Grossman is going to be put in bad situations where he can turn the ball over all season, then it's not an offense that is going to make Beck a success story. If we're making a quarterback change to limit the damaged caused by the quarterback, then fine, play John Beck.

But then we need to realize that the bar for the offense is being set at "I hope we have fewer turnovers than touchdowns." Such is the only standard in which Beck can achieve success.

Ummmm you start Beck because you have the worse QB in the league leading the offense. I really dont think this is really that complicated. A) were not building for the future with Rex b) Rex statiscally has been the worse or near the worse QB in the league. c) What do we have to lose, we are 3-2. We werent lead to that record because of Rex.

[Bucket]

I'm in it for Beck.. No matter if we lose every game. I don't wan't to see Grossman ever again.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If today didn't provide enough evidence that Beck can't make the throws necessary to lead the offense

It sure didn't for me.
I expect a nervous/amped up back-up in Beck shoes to look shaky early, the dude is basically a rookie albeit a few season removed.
But, you gotta admit he made some nice throws, some clutch throws.
He showed his mobility and he made some plays to avoid sacks.

..............."I hope we have fewer turnovers than touchdowns." Such is the only standard in which Beck can achieve success.

I'm note sure how anyone can know Beck's ceiling? He could on be safe game managers don't 'screw it up' type QB or he could be an Andy Dalson/Ryan Fitpatrick.

[pg86]

Originally Posted by 30gut

It sure didn't for me.
I expect a nervous/amped up back-up in Beck shoes to look shaky early, the dude is basically a rookie albeit a few season removed.
But, you gotta admit he made some nice throws, some clutch throws.
He showed his mobility and he made some plays to avoid sacks.

I'm note sure how anyone can know Beck's ceiling? He could on be safe game managers don't 'screw it up' type QB or he could be an Andy Dalson/Ryan Fitpatrick.

Im sorta with you 30gut...What in the hell have we seen from beck to make this assesment that he's not gonna be better than rex?

Hey History of this team shows we just need a guy that can manage the game and run the playbook there are only 2 QB's in the Hall from this team correct? And Most of us weren't around to see them play (if you are old enough to remember Sammy Baugh I'd love to know your longevity secrets) Beck tossed up a few game equalizers our recievers needed to hold on. If anything I'd say we inserted him a wee bit too late....The test is next week...If Beck comes out and plays like Mr.Brady were gonna haave to eat alot of crow here.

Grossman is done.....if Beck does bad I suppose we'll see Crompton (did he make the roster?)