What's your take on our coaching?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I still maintain that people are unfairly harsh on Kyle becaue of his last name. He hasn't been riding his father's coattails. He'll prove a lot of people here wrong before you know it

I tend to agree, our problem is talent more than coaching. But at the same time Mike & Kyle have to shoulder the blame for thinking they could be competitive with Rex and Beck at QB.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I tend to agree, our problem is talent more than coaching. But at the same time Mike & Kyle have to shoulder the blame for thinking they could be competitive with Rex and Beck at QB.

Bingo. This is my biggest gripe. I am not saying that MS and KS should be fired, that's ridiculous. But they need to shoulder the blame for this mess. Fans love to focus on just the players when things go bad, yet they forget that the coaches have a part in it too. I don't expect many wins from this team given the lack of talent and the injuries, but I would hope that they go down swinging.

Look at what "lesser" teams did yesterday. The Dolphins put up a fight against the Giants, so did the Cards against the Ravens. And out of nowhere, the Rams who were left for dead, stunned the Saints with their back up QB at the helm. If we are going to lose, I'd like for us to at least be competitive and not to lay down in front of teams like we did yesterday.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

But at the same time Mike & Kyle have to shoulder the blame for thinking they could be competitive with Rex and Beck at QB.

What the hell did you expect Mike to say in the off-season?



Yeah guys, we are going with two scrub QBs this season because there is absolutely nothing available to us on the open market or draft I deem worthy at our drafting spot?


I'm not sure why people read so much into a coach's statements or sometimes don't read enough. You have to know when he's lying his ass off (as in the case with Rex/Beck being legit) and when he's giving you code messages. (it's going to take time, but we will be competitive)

Translations: Our QBs suck and we are rebuilding.

However, I doubt you have many coaches who'll say that. In fact, probably none.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

What the hell did you expect Mike to say in the off-season?



Yeah guys, we are going with two scrub QBs this season because there is absolutely nothing available to us on the open market or draft I deem worthy at our drafting spot?


I'm not sure why people read so much into a coach's statements or sometimes don't read enough. You have to know when he's lying his ass off (as in the case with Rex/Beck being legit) and when he's giving you code messages. (it's going to take time, but we will be competitive)

Translations: Our QBs suck and we are rebuilding.

However, I doubt you have many coaches who'll say that. In fact, probably none.

Well, they did choose to pass over some viable free agents. I have a hard time believing someone like Matt Hasselbeck couldn't have come in and done a better job than what we've seen from Rex & Beck.

We've now seen 2 years in a row where they have failed big time in regard to QB decisions here.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well, they did choose to pass over some viable free agents. I have a hard time believing someone like Matt Hasselbeck couldn't have come in and done a better job than what we've seen from Rex & Beck.

Beck hasn't played bad in games up until yesterday. That said, do you think Hasselbeck (or even Tom Brady) would have fared any better yesterday from the play of our OL/WR?


No run block or pass blocking at all from that group yesterday.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I tend to agree, our problem is talent more than coaching. But at the same time Mike & Kyle have to shoulder the blame for thinking they could be competitive with Rex and Beck at QB.

I agree that it's talent more than coaching too. I'm sure they are aware that Beck/Grossman aren't top tier players. I mean KS has been around Matt Schaub a couple years, he knows what a good QB looks like, same w/ MS obviously. We've got other major concerns, such as depth which they are aware of too and that's why we took so many players in this last draft.

I got a faith in the current administration. The last administration not so much.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I tend to agree, our problem is talent more than coaching. But at the same time Mike & Kyle have to shoulder the blame for thinking they could be competitive with Rex and Beck at QB.

Not too sure I can agree with you after yesterday. Buffalo is not a more talented team then we are. They're just better coached.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not too sure I can agree with you after yesterday. Buffalo is not a more talented team then we are. They're just better coached.

They have a lot of guys I'd take over ours, at least on offense. Jackson is the real deal and while no superstar Fitz is a 2nd tier type of QB who fits well in what they do. They have a bunch of no-names at WR, but they get the job done.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

They have a lot of guys I'd take over ours, at least on offense. Jackson is the real deal and while no superstar Fitz is a 2nd tier type of QB who fits well in what they do. They have a bunch of no-names at WR, but they get the job done.

They have a lot of no names, including Chad Rinehart.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I still maintain that people are unfairly harsh on Kyle becaue of his last name. He hasn't been riding his father's coattails. He'll prove a lot of people here wrong before you know it

Right.
And Yellowstone is supposed to become a super volcano one day too.

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Right.
And Yellowstone is supposed to become a super volcano one day too.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I still maintain that people are unfairly harsh on Kyle becaue of his last name. He hasn't been riding his father's coattails. He'll prove a lot of people here wrong before you know it

I sincerely, genuinely and enthusiastically hope you're right duder.

[Chico23231]

My expectation is the offense should be getting better. Its going in the other direction. Kyle has to be held accountable at some point.

[SmootSmack]

Have Mike and Kyle not been shouldering any of the blame?

And I just don't get how people are like "Well Kyle's only good when he has a good QB" Well then get him a good QB! What's the logic behind firing him? And then what you go and draft a franchise QB next year...and then we're all like "Man, imagine if Kyle Shanahan was working with this QB right now?"

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Have Mike and Kyle not been shouldering any of the blame?

And I just don't get how people are like "Well Kyle's only good when he has a good QB" Well then get him a good QB! What's the logic behind firing him? And then what you go and draft a franchise QB next year...and then we're all like "Man, imagine if Kyle Shanahan was working with this QB right now?"

Well the fans seem to just want to blame the players for everything that goes wrong (even when the team was winning).