What's your take on our coaching?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The real test will be what will Harbaugh do when Alex Smith is a free agent at the end of this year. His hands were a bit tied because of the lockout, which is a big reason he didn't make many moves particularly at QB. But after this season, will he offer the big money to Smith and say "yes you're my guy" or will he say "thanks, but I just needed a temporary solution"

Scary to think what the Niners will be w/ an elite QB!!!!!!!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Scary to think what the Niners will be w/ an elite QB!!!!!!!

What would happen if Luck pulls an Elway/Eli Manning and wants to play for his old coach in SF? Could happen.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

What would happen if Luck pulls an Elway/Eli Manning and wants to play for his old coach in SF? Could happen.

Holy crap didn't think of that!!!! SanFran could be on the verge of another Montana like era...

[NC_Skins]

[SirClintonPortis]

Our roster isn't anywhere close to what Harbaugh inheirited. The 49ers had a top-tier rush defense LAST YEAR(I knew very well not to start RBs against 'Frisco in fantasy). They improved their pass D by drafting Aldon Smith and signing 'Los(who's average play here might be partially related to the work environment.

Offensively, Vernon Davis and Frank Gore have been consistently productive since 2009 and are safe to consider "still in their prime". Our offensive talents were aging, mediocre, or just plain ass.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Our roster isn't anywhere close to what Harbaugh inheirited. The 49ers had a top-tier rush defense LAST YEAR(I knew very well not to start RBs against 'Frisco in fantasy). They improved their pass D by drafting Aldon Smith and signing 'Los(who's average play here might be partially related to the work environment.

Offensively, Vernon Davis and Frank Gore have been consistently productive since 2009 and are safe to consider "still in their prime". Our offensive talents were aging, mediocre, or just plain ass.

Shanahan inherited a better defense than Harbaugh did period end of sentence. What he chose to do w/ it is the real story.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Shanahan inherited a better defense than Harbaugh did period end of sentence. What he chose to do w/ it is the real story.

I'm going from a personnel perspective, not "stats", . Their secondary was complete ass, but yet they were absolutely dominant against the run in 2009 and 2010. The latter signifies that their front 7 was well off enough to pull that off. What put the 49ers over the top is the marked improvement in their pass defense, which the additions of Rogers and Aldon Smith bolstered.

Our front 7 was reaching the point where it would soon be worthy of the label "unacceptable", with Rak and Fletch being the only exceptions. Our secondary was decent and better than the 49ers, but that's not saying much.

Had Shanahan decided to keep the 4-3, not only did he need to find a suitable coordinator(easier said than done), but he would have had to replenish the Dline* and fill the absolutely GAPING void that was at SOLB.

The reason our yardage total was so low was that Greg Blache is the ****ing Jacques Martin of defense. An excessively conservative scheme that can limit yards even with mediocre personnel because it is designed to give up long, time-consuming drives to limit points.


*Griff was injury vulnerable, Haynesworth was a lazy flake even under Blache, and weak sauce Kedric Golston was our "depth". Phillip Daniels, while effective, retired 2 years later. Andre Carter, while good, was certainly getting up their in age as well.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Our front 7 was reaching the point where it would soon be worthy of the label "unacceptable", with Rak and Fletch being the only exceptions. Our secondary was decent and better than the 49ers, but that's not saying much.

Had Shanahan decided to keep the 4-3, not only did he need to find a suitable coordinator(easier said than done), but he would have had to replenish the Dline* and fill the absolutely GAPING void that was at SOLB.

*Griff was injury vulnerable, Haynesworth was a lazy flake even under Blache, and weak sauce Kedric Golston was our "depth". Phillip Daniels, while effective, retired 2 years later. Andre Carter, while good, was certainly getting up their in age as well.

I am sure it could have been easier to find some band aids for the 4-3 defense, while the offense was being rebuilt; than completely overhauling the defense and putting band aids on a terrible offense.

That being said, this team still doesn't have a good NT. I like Cofield, but he's not making the impact that a true 3-4 NT should be making. He probably be better suited to play as a 3-4 DE.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I am sure it could have been easier to find some band aids for the 4-3 defense, while the offense was being rebuilt; than completely overhauling the defense and putting band aids on a terrible offense.

That being said, this team still doesn't have a good NT. I like Cofield, but he's not making the impact that a true 3-4 NT should be making. He probably be better suited to play as a 3-4 DE.

The constant addition of band aids would only mask the fact that the D was in desperate need of long-term impact players to maintain its previous level of [imo, overrated] play. And these bandaids themselves might have sucked enough to expose these flaws on the D anyway.

Transition or no transition, the D was most certainly not in a state that it could be neglected for a couple years and be expected to perform at a highly level. No SOLB, aging line, suspect FS, okay OLB.

Not only that, we were not in good position to draft offensive players. 2010's 2nd round had very few offensive players taken during that round. Had we kept that pick, the pick ought to have went to a defensive player, i.e Lamarr Houston or Nate Allen.

[SBXVII]

On a similar theme did anyone else hear on 106.7 FM the News section coming out of a break of the Lavar and Dukes show said that it's been reported the Skins are presently looking through the available WR's on the market to see what Vets are worth bringing in? It followed right after MS mentioned that people really don't know whats going on and (refering to players) some people need to stop running their mouths especially when they are not doing their job. lol.

So .... who gets brought in?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

On a similar theme did anyone else hear on 106.7 FM the News section coming out of a break of the Lavar and Dukes show said that it's been reported the Skins are presently looking through the available WR's on the market to see what Vets are worth bringing in? It followed right after MS mentioned that people really don't know whats going on and (refering to players) some people need to stop running their mouths especially when they are not doing their job. lol.

So .... who gets brought in?

What?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

What?

Wondering the same.. would like to see full question and answer... only thing I can think of is Gaffney mentioning being open several times

[Sonny9TD]

A picture tells a story don't it.

[GTripp0012]

Our DL has not been a strength this year. It doesn't have to be for the defense to work, but we tied up a lot of money in it, and there has not been a great performer in it.

Quietly, Stephen Bowen is getting outproduced by Kedric Golston over this four game losing streak.

I think Cofield's performance has been really underrated this season. Sure, I'd agree that he's not a traditional NT and that any time a defense has run defense issues, you point the finger first at the nose guard, but we were a horrible defensive team on first and ten last year. We've been a really good one this year. The biggest difference has been Barry Cofield keeping the pocket a dangerous place for quarterbacks to step up. He's doing a great job protecting our overpaid secondary on early downs and distances.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Our DL has not been a strength this year. It doesn't have to be for the defense to work, but we tied up a lot of money in it, and there has not been a great performer in it.

Quietly, Stephen Bowen is getting outproduced by Kedric Golston over this four game losing streak.

I think Cofield's performance has been really underrated this season. Sure, I'd agree that he's not a traditional NT and that any time a defense has run defense issues, you point the finger first at the nose guard, but we were a horrible defensive team on first and ten last year. We've been a really good one this year. The biggest difference has been Barry Cofield keeping the pocket a dangerous place for quarterbacks to step up. He's doing a great job protecting our overpaid secondary on early downs and distances.

This is interesting stuff so do we say Cofield isn't a pocket collapsing NT but a prevent guy? Like preventing QB scrambles or stepping up in the pocket to extend a play?