John Beck Era Begins

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

It might have to do with the fact he holds the ball like my 7-year-old niece.

I'll get used to it though, at least he's faster than my niece (unlike Rex).

God bless the Beck era. False hope is better than none. :headbange

Hey, give the guy at least one sunday to prove himself. He might be just the game manager this team needs. Who knows.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Hey, give the guy at least one sunday to prove himself. He might be just the game manager this team needs. Who knows.

Agreed, just "keeping it real". I'm pretty excited for the Beck era to begin. If Rex was starting I'd be depressed all week. I'm on the Beckwagon 100%.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He fumbled a lot I believe back in 2007 as well. 7 times in 4 games, or something like that. Can't let that happen

Someone, I think on wash post forum, said they were at the game & noticed that Beck's passes are often wobbly, not a tight spiral. That comment made me wonder if his hands are just small & he often slightly loses grip as he begins to throw?

The fumble on sunday looked like a case of simple clumsiness & nerves, trying to move fast & make a decision. I'm not too worried about that, I'm more worried about how well he throws the ball w/several blitzers about to pounce on him. He didn't throw well under pressure in the last preseason game, v. the iggles they didn't bring too many after him. At least he can run!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

One (of many) things that worry me about Beck was the scramble where he fumbled the ball. I mean Holy Cow, nobody touched him, he just knocked it loose himself. I guess I believe we will see 1-3 turnovers a game with Beck at QB, just hope his mobility makes up for those ones.

I'm willing to give Beck the benefit of the doubt that was a jitters thing. He basically knocked the ball out of his right hand w/ his left hand, which looked really silly in slow mo btw lol. Let's see if/when he settles down at the helm.

...for eff sakes my friends aren't we due for a diamond in the ruff at QB?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'm willing to give Beck the benefit of the doubt that was a jitters thing. He basically knocked the ball out of his right hand w/ his left hand, which looked really silly in slow mo btw lol. Let's see if/when he settles down at the helm.

...for eff sakes my friends aren't we due for a diamond in the ruff at QB?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Totally agree with the jitters, but honestly the Eagles didn't game plan around him either. They game planned around Grossman a less mobile QB, and we threw in a mobile QB. I think he will play well against the Panthers because their defense sucks, but the games following will be interesting since our OL is a patch work. Plus the better defenses who will game plan around him.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Totally agree with the jitters, but honestly the Eagles didn't game plan around him either. They game planned around Grossman a less mobile QB, and we threw in a mobile QB. I think he will play well against the Panthers because their defense sucks, but the games following will be interesting since our OL is a patch work. Plus the better defenses who will game plan around him.

I think some of Beck's success also had to do with him coming into the game in garbage time. Philly was protecting a 20 pt lead and as long as they had the lead they didnt have a problem with him running and passing how he wanted.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Hopefully Beck's accuracy and mobility will be utilized with us calling for more bootlegs. Plus there's no way Hankerson could play any worse than Stallworth except maybe on the special teams side of things so I hope the staff gets him suited up for a game sooner rather than later.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by irish

I think some of Beck's success also had to do with him coming into the game in garbage time. Philly was protecting a 20 pt lead and as long as they had the lead they didnt have a problem with him running and passing how he wanted.

From what little I have seen of JB, he has a good arm and can deliver on a rope when req'd. Something that troubled Rex....a little to floaty into tight places. He can make all the throws.
He has "get away" and "buy time" speed and (and roll away from L Tackle position) the occasional rushing yardage factor. He looks calm in the pocket and steps up under fire.
IF he can avoid the......"Crazy Gene" we have seen from time to time....perhaps he can do some good stuff.
AND...if not, I'm headed to the Carolina's to find out first hand HOW to run the 2 QB thing from the Ol' Ball Coach..........

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by irish

I think some of Beck's success also had to do with him coming into the game in garbage time. Philly was protecting a 20 pt lead and as long as they had the lead they didnt have a problem with him running and passing how he wanted.

I wouldn't go that far. If I'm not mistaken Beck came in with Philly protecting a 14 point lead. Not exactly the kind of lead, especially on the road, where you just shrug your shoulders and write it off to win. Not to mention that lead was created by 4 turnovers by a guy who was no longer in the game.

I'm not full-on Beckwagon, but I don't think in any way whatsoever his successes had anything to do with Philly taking their foot off the gas.

[Bucket]

Where are the bells and rays of sunshine sneaking through the clouds while making this announcement?

The Book of John has begun!
John Beck will be the next morman QB in the NFL to go to the SUPER BOWL!
He will have as many touchdowns as he has wives

[IRISHSKIN24]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Where are the bells and rays of sunshine sneaking through the clouds while making this announcement?

The Book of John has begun!
John Beck will be the next morman QB in the NFL to go to the SUPER BOWL!
He will have as many touchdowns as he has wives

John Beck: The Stormin' Mormon!

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by IRISHSKIN24

John Beck: The Stormin' Mormon!

we're doomed!!!!!!

[#56fanatic]

It is a move that had to happen given the numbers. My issue is this :

1) we are 3-2
2) Heading on the road for a winable game, which in my opinion would have been the best place for Rex to play (any where but home)
3) I know he has 8 or 9 picks, but how many are actually all on him?? Two last week were on Fred Davis, I can count a few more that either went off receivers hands, Santana fell on one, Armstrong was held on another. Unfortunately these things go against a QB's numbers and it doesn't look good. If the whole picture is disected, its more bad luck than horrible throws.
4) We lost 2 of our starting lineman
5) what happened to the running game?? Which hurt the ability to throw effectively when the D isn't planning on getting run on.


I hope Beck comes out and does a hell of job. And if this was reverse I'd be saying the same thing about Beck so dont think I am standing up for Rex. I am standing up for the QB position, because it takes way too much credit when they win, and way too much heat when we lose.

[zeesson]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

It is a move that had to happen given the numbers. My issue is this :

1) we are 3-2
2) Heading on the road for a winable game, which in my opinion would have been the best place for Rex to play (any where but home)
3) I know he has 8 or 9 picks, but how many are actually all on him?? Two last week were on Fred Davis, I can count a few more that either went off receivers hands, Santana fell on one, Armstrong was held on another. Unfortunately these things go against a QB's numbers and it doesn't look good. If the whole picture is disected, its more bad luck than horrible throws.
4) We lost 2 of our starting lineman
5) what happened to the running game?? Which hurt the ability to throw effectively when the D isn't planning on getting run on.


I hope Beck comes out and does a hell of job. And if this was reverse I'd be saying the same thing about Beck so dont think I am standing up for Rex. I am standing up for the QB position, because it takes way too much credit when they win, and way too much heat when we lose.

Bad Luck? He must be the unluckiest QB in the NFL since 2005

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by zeesson

Bad Luck? He must be the unluckiest QB in the NFL since 2005

LOL - I wasn't referring to previous years as I have not or did not watch his games as a Bear. It has been said he is careless with the ball, which he has shown here as well. I am not debating that at all. What I am pointing out is that of the 9 pics he has thrown, several have not been on him. As stated previously, 2 last week were on Fred Davis, who said that himselft. And a couple from previous games.

QB's 99% of the time get blamed for INT's, what I am saying is that they should not be help accountable for 99% of those INT's. There is so much that goes on that the fans dont see in terms of receivers routes, whether they give up on them, or take them short, or stop the routes. A lot of the throws are anticipation throws and if a receiver deviates slightly from the route then its an incompletion or in some case picks.

Rex made mistakes last week and in previous weeks, no doubt about it. I hope Beck comes in and the offense as a whole gets a spark and runs more smooth and can put up some points.