John Beck Era Begins

[CRedskinsRule]

One (of many) things that worry me about Beck was the scramble where he fumbled the ball. I mean Holy Cow, nobody touched him, he just knocked it loose himself. I guess I believe we will see 1-3 turnovers a game with Beck at QB, just hope his mobility makes up for those ones.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

One (of many) things that worry me about Beck was the scramble where he fumbled the ball. I mean Holy Cow, nobody touched him, he just knocked it loose himself. I guess I believe we will see 1-3 turnovers a game with Beck at QB, just hope his mobility makes up for those ones.

Agreed. In my eyes both of our QB's are potential turnover machines.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

One (of many) things that worry me about Beck was the scramble where he fumbled the ball. I mean Holy Cow, nobody touched him, he just knocked it loose himself. I guess I believe we will see 1-3 turnovers a game with Beck at QB, just hope his mobility makes up for those ones.

He fumbled a lot I believe back in 2007 as well. 7 times in 4 games, or something like that. Can't let that happen

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He fumbled a lot I believe back in 2007 as well. 7 times in 4 games, or something like that. Can't let that happen

It might have to do with the fact he holds the ball like my 7-year-old niece.

I'll get used to it though, at least he's faster than my niece (unlike Rex).

God bless the Beck era. False hope is better than none. :headbange

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

It might have to do with the fact he holds the ball like my 7-year-old niece.

I'll get used to it though, at least he's faster than my niece (unlike Rex).

God bless the Beck era. False hope is better than none. :headbange

Hey, give the guy at least one sunday to prove himself. He might be just the game manager this team needs. Who knows.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Hey, give the guy at least one sunday to prove himself. He might be just the game manager this team needs. Who knows.

Agreed, just "keeping it real". I'm pretty excited for the Beck era to begin. If Rex was starting I'd be depressed all week. I'm on the Beckwagon 100%.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He fumbled a lot I believe back in 2007 as well. 7 times in 4 games, or something like that. Can't let that happen

Someone, I think on wash post forum, said they were at the game & noticed that Beck's passes are often wobbly, not a tight spiral. That comment made me wonder if his hands are just small & he often slightly loses grip as he begins to throw?

The fumble on sunday looked like a case of simple clumsiness & nerves, trying to move fast & make a decision. I'm not too worried about that, I'm more worried about how well he throws the ball w/several blitzers about to pounce on him. He didn't throw well under pressure in the last preseason game, v. the iggles they didn't bring too many after him. At least he can run!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

One (of many) things that worry me about Beck was the scramble where he fumbled the ball. I mean Holy Cow, nobody touched him, he just knocked it loose himself. I guess I believe we will see 1-3 turnovers a game with Beck at QB, just hope his mobility makes up for those ones.

I'm willing to give Beck the benefit of the doubt that was a jitters thing. He basically knocked the ball out of his right hand w/ his left hand, which looked really silly in slow mo btw lol. Let's see if/when he settles down at the helm.

...for eff sakes my friends aren't we due for a diamond in the ruff at QB?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'm willing to give Beck the benefit of the doubt that was a jitters thing. He basically knocked the ball out of his right hand w/ his left hand, which looked really silly in slow mo btw lol. Let's see if/when he settles down at the helm.

...for eff sakes my friends aren't we due for a diamond in the ruff at QB?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Totally agree with the jitters, but honestly the Eagles didn't game plan around him either. They game planned around Grossman a less mobile QB, and we threw in a mobile QB. I think he will play well against the Panthers because their defense sucks, but the games following will be interesting since our OL is a patch work. Plus the better defenses who will game plan around him.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Totally agree with the jitters, but honestly the Eagles didn't game plan around him either. They game planned around Grossman a less mobile QB, and we threw in a mobile QB. I think he will play well against the Panthers because their defense sucks, but the games following will be interesting since our OL is a patch work. Plus the better defenses who will game plan around him.

I think some of Beck's success also had to do with him coming into the game in garbage time. Philly was protecting a 20 pt lead and as long as they had the lead they didnt have a problem with him running and passing how he wanted.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Hopefully Beck's accuracy and mobility will be utilized with us calling for more bootlegs. Plus there's no way Hankerson could play any worse than Stallworth except maybe on the special teams side of things so I hope the staff gets him suited up for a game sooner rather than later.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by irish

I think some of Beck's success also had to do with him coming into the game in garbage time. Philly was protecting a 20 pt lead and as long as they had the lead they didnt have a problem with him running and passing how he wanted.

From what little I have seen of JB, he has a good arm and can deliver on a rope when req'd. Something that troubled Rex....a little to floaty into tight places. He can make all the throws.
He has "get away" and "buy time" speed and (and roll away from L Tackle position) the occasional rushing yardage factor. He looks calm in the pocket and steps up under fire.
IF he can avoid the......"Crazy Gene" we have seen from time to time....perhaps he can do some good stuff.
AND...if not, I'm headed to the Carolina's to find out first hand HOW to run the 2 QB thing from the Ol' Ball Coach..........

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Hog1

From what little I have seen of JB, he has a good arm and can deliver on a rope when req'd. Something that troubled Rex....a little to floaty into tight places. He can make all the throws.
He has "get away" and "buy time" speed and (and roll away from L Tackle position) the occasional rushing yardage factor. He looks calm in the pocket and steps up under fire.
IF he can avoid the......"Crazy Gene" we have seen from time to time....perhaps he can do some good stuff.
AND...if not, I'm headed to the Carolina's to find out first hand HOW to run the 2 QB thing from the Ol' Ball Coach..........

I'd disagree with slightly, Rex is good in short to intermediate passes. Heck sometimes I wonder why he's throwing the ball so hard. It's his deep ball that is the issue. He can muster about 1 good deep ball a game... nothing more. He tends to either under throw the ball (usually) or over throw the ball.

Beck can throw the ball deep but is not accurate on the deep passes. Basically I'm saying yeah he'll get the ball down to where it needs to be but our WR's need to be able to locate, track, and go after the ball for the catch which they are not good at for some reason. I think possibly only Moss is capable of doing this. If the ball is not on the money they won't catch it.

From what I've seen though Beck being able to buy time is not going to help when the WR's can't catch or drop balls that land in their hands which is 90% of the issue's this team is having. Instead fans are pointing at Grossman saying he sucks.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by irish

I think some of Beck's success also had to do with him coming into the game in garbage time. Philly was protecting a 20 pt lead and as long as they had the lead they didnt have a problem with him running and passing how he wanted.

I wouldn't go that far. If I'm not mistaken Beck came in with Philly protecting a 14 point lead. Not exactly the kind of lead, especially on the road, where you just shrug your shoulders and write it off to win. Not to mention that lead was created by 4 turnovers by a guy who was no longer in the game.

I'm not full-on Beckwagon, but I don't think in any way whatsoever his successes had anything to do with Philly taking their foot off the gas.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I wouldn't go that far. If I'm not mistaken Beck came in with Philly protecting a 14 point lead. Not exactly the kind of lead, especially on the road, where you just shrug your shoulders and write it off to win. Not to mention that lead was created by 4 turnovers by a guy who was no longer in the game.

I'm not full-on Beckwagon, but I don't think in any way whatsoever his successes had anything to do with Philly taking their foot off the gas.

Your right. I think Haslett was able to get the defense straightened out by that point. and it was only a 14 point lead with 12 min. left in the game. I'm baffled as to why the Skins only had two possessions in 12 min. but chalk it up to not playing a hurry up offense. At that point the team needed to start the no huddle to keep the Eagles off balance and didn't. Most of the throws were down the middle because the Eagles gave them that to eat up clock. Beck needed to find sideline passes to stop the clock with out having to use time outs. He didn't.