Updated: Hightower Torn ACL/Moss Out 5-7 Weeks

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

and all of it falls on the QB. right? He had awsome WR's that "he" never got the ball to. He had awesome plays sent in by the OC that were not executed well by "him". All his WR's ran perfect routes and he simply threw the ball to the opponant. The only way you can judge him is by his stats and we don't even know if all those stats were attributed to being his fault.

Are you seriously suggesting that Grossman "took" the bears to the SB?? I make no suggestions as to the competence or lack thereof of the Bears 2006 offense, I merely suggest that Grossman did not take the team to the SB, but that he (like the rest of the offense that year) was merely along for the ride. You suggested that he was a SB quarterback, I merely would point out that so was Trent Dilfer (who was replaced the very next year by his team).

As for judging from his stats - Rex's stats from that year are consistent with his historical stat line, so he may have had average teammates, but he certainly wasn't pulling a P. Manning and carrying his team. The SB was an anomoly caused by his amazing defense that year and not indicative anything more than Dilferesque ability on the part of Rex.

Originally Posted by SBXVII

But I'll back off that arguement a moment. Beck was so good the Ravens picked him up and wanted to protect him so they made him their second stringer. right? The Ravens are a good team. no excuses there as to why he wasn't starting and taking the Ravens to the SB?

Huh? Just huh? Sorry, I rely on prior retorts on this one. It's just an epic fail of an argument.

Again, maybe Beck does better, maybe not. It is unlikely he will be much worse although certainly he may do so, and, unfortunately, it is not unlikely that Beck will be just as bad as Grossman was. Let's see what he does with the keys to the car.