Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition

[Shadowbyte]

So far the Shannahans haven't performed better than Steve Spurrier, Norv Turner, Schottenheimer, or Jim Zorn. These guys are a complete joke. This year had a great class of QB's who have all shown promise and expedient progress; Newton, Dalton, Ponder, Locker including Ryan Mallet. And guess what, we didn't get any of them. All of them are much better than what we have now. For Shannahan to miss out on all of them proves that the game has passed him by.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

So far the Shannahans haven't performed better than Steve Spurrier, Norv Turner, Schottenheimer, or Jim Zorn. These guys are a complete joke. This year had a great class of QB's who have all shown promise and expedient progress; Newton, Dalton, Ponder, Locker including Ryan Mallet. And guess what, we didn't get any of them. All of them are much better than what we have now. For Shannahan to miss out on all of them proves that the game has passed him by.

Shanahan never had a chance at Newton and Locker. They were off the board before we made a selection. Dalton and Ponder are playing on teams that have more playmakers and are more talented than we are. Nobody has seen anything of Ryan Mallet.

But go ahead. Call for the firing of Mike Shanahan. Then give the next guy 23 games before calling for his head.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

So far the Shannahans haven't performed better than Steve Spurrier, Norv Turner, Schottenheimer, or Jim Zorn. These guys are a complete joke. This year had a great class of QB's who have all shown promise and expedient progress; Newton, Dalton, Ponder, Locker including Ryan Mallet. And guess what, we didn't get any of them. All of them are much better than what we have now. For Shannahan to miss out on all of them proves that the game has passed him by.

Has Locker even played yet???


If Dan fired MS right now, who do you think would even want to come to this team?

I am just as frustrated as the next guy but it is going to take time plain and simple.

[NC_Skins]

Five questions facing the Redskins | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner


Good article posted by Matty in the other section.

2 How long is John Beck's leash? He had one decent game in Carolina and one bad game in Buffalo. Should we really be talking about a possible benching already? He needs more help from his teammates; they also need more from him. But if they're struggling Sunday vs. San Francisco -- a good defense -- and if Beck is off again, then change is fair. Beck deserves to see how he recovers -- that was only his sixth NFL start -- but he needs a good outing.

3 What can spark a turnaround? Playmakers. The Redskins don't have them on offense, so it must come from the defense and special teams. They have numerous playmakers on defense: corner DeAngelo Hall, safety LaRon Landry, etc. Somehow they must come up with more plays to put the offense in good situations. You know, like they did in the first half vs. Buffalo. Oops. Also, Brandon Banks needs a big return. This team needs a major spark, and he can provide one.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Five questions facing the Redskins | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner


Good article posted by Matty in the other section.

The thing I've seen though in watching Beck is how accurate and quick his release is. I mean the foundation is there with the work ethic, quick release, and mobility. If we can get back to playing Redskin football (running the ball, controlling the clock, playing good defense) then Beck will become an asset.

Honestly after watching Campbell's slow release, McNabb's ground balls, and Rex's wobblers, Beck's passes have become a welcome sight.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

The thing I've seen though in watching Beck is how accurate and quick his release is. I mean the foundation is there with the work ethic, quick release, and mobility. If we can get back to playing Redskin football (running the ball, controlling the clock, playing good defense) then Beck will become an asset.

Honestly after watching Campbell's slow release, McNabb's ground balls, and Rex's wobblers, Beck's passes have become a welcome sight.

But his issue's still remain... he has a beautiful deep ball but if he can't get it anywhere near the WR or the WR's fail to go after or fight for the ball then it's useless. If the coaching staff is not going to call plays that actually utilize Becks mobility ie; QB runs, or roll outs then it's pointless. If Beck is not reading the defense properly or fails to make and adjustment for what the defense is giving him then he's no good to the team.

Basically there is potential but the mental game is not making it to the football field. You can have the best General in peace time but if he can't manage a war he's no better then the PFC in the trenches.

I think it boils down to the system and the coaching staff calling plays that benifit your QB abilities. You can't expect Campbell to drop back and make a fast read and get rid of the ball if he can't do that, so you beef up the OL and try to give him more time to make his reads. The problem is KS's system is a quick drop fast read get the ball out type of system. Grossman is good at that but doesn't have the arm strength to throw the deep ball. Beck has the strength but no accuracy. The only difference is Becks mobility which is not being utilized well enough or so I think.

If KS wants a QB to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball they might as well go back to Grossman who was able to read the defense and go through his progressions faster and get the ball out. I'll accept the 2 INT's a game. If KS wants a QB who can scramble, run for yards, and roll out then keep Beck and use those skill sets and use plays that use those skill sets.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

But his issue's still remain... he has a beautiful deep ball but if he can't get it anywhere near the WR or the WR's fail to go after or fight for the ball then it's useless. If the coaching staff is not going to call plays that actually utilize Becks mobility ie; QB runs, or roll outs then it's pointless. If Beck is not reading the defense properly or fails to make and adjustment for what the defense is giving him then he's no good to the team.

Basically there is potential but the mental game is not making it to the football field. You can have the best General in peace time but if he can't manage a war he's no better then the PFC in the trenches.

I think it boils down to the system and the coaching staff calling plays that benifit your QB abilities. You can't expect Campbell to drop back and make a fast read and get rid of the ball if he can't do that, so you beef up the OL and try to give him more time to make his reads. The problem is KS's system is a quick drop fast read get the ball out type of system. Grossman is good at that but doesn't have the arm strength to throw the deep ball. Beck has the strength but no accuracy. The only difference is Becks mobility which is not being utilized well enough or so I think.

If KS wants a QB to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball they might as well go back to Grossman who was able to read the defense and go through his progressions faster and get the ball out. I'll accept the 2 INT's a game. If KS wants a QB who can scramble, run for yards, and roll out then keep Beck and use those skill sets and use plays that use those skill sets.

But but, his passes are purty.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

But but, his passes are purty.

Spoken like a true southern.