Militiamen plot terror attack

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Okay. This I get.

Religion and politics I agree whole heartedly with you.

On the other hand, I just don't see how you can separate business and politics. Business is how the economy functions and it touches everyone of us everyday in innumberable transactions. Government regulates how business is done, if it doesn't bad, bad bad things happen: unregulated free markets, general corruption (how do you verify that that gallon of gas you got is actually a gallon and not .85 of a gallon? Or that certain foods are safe?), etc. How govt. regulates business is determinative of "What's good for the people".

People are business and vice versa. It can't be removed from the political equation.

Maybe I should be more clear on the business and politics quote. I have a problem with Big Businesses and our government.

I'm not saying that government shouldn't make decisions for or based on businesses. I should more or less say "Big Business" should be separated. The majority of jobs in America are due to small business owners, yet the majority of regulation favors big business. They constantly get tax breaks and ship jobs overseas. They are deregulated which allows them to do shady things that lead to economic downfalls, and then expect taxpayers to bail them out.

[saden1]

When it comes to saving the Constitution, that means some people gotta die.

That explains it all...they are protecting the constitution. Let freedom reign except for the people that gotta die.

Fcking morons.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by saden1

That explains it all...they are protecting the constitution. Let freedom reign except for the people that gotta die.

Fcking morons.

Didn't Bush and the war supporters say the same thing when they claimed to "liberate" the Iraqi people?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Will be very interesting once all the details come out. If the allegations are true, throw the book and these idiots and lock 'em away.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Didn't Bush and the war supporters say the same thing when they claimed to "liberate" the Iraqi people?

No. Just, No. Not even remotely in the same universe. If you can't see the monumental leap required to equate these two actions, I just don't know what to say.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Didn't Bush and the war supporters say the same thing when they claimed to "liberate" the Iraqi people?

No but I am sure there are some redneck hicks who believe external wars are about protecting the constitution. I believe team Bush called it "collateral damage" which apparently detached America from any wrongdoing as far as civilian deaths.

[Lotus]

What about the irony that the political right generally claims to protect us from terrorism yet here are terrorists growing organically out of the far right?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Lotus

What about the irony that the political right generally claims to protect us from terrorism yet here are terrorists growing organically out of the far right?

Kind of, but I think more about the comparisons between the homegrown vs. Muslim terrorists.

When you compare the ideology of the far right homegrown terrorists and far right Muslim terrorists, their overall mindsets (violence to protect belief system) and targets (U.S. government) are similiar they just have different philosophies that fuel their anger/hate.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Kind of, but I think more about the comparisons between the homegrown vs. Muslim terrorists.

When you compare the ideology of the far right homegrown terrorists and far right Muslim terrorists, their overall mindsets (violence to protect belief system) and targets (U.S. government) are similiar they just have different philosophies that fuel their anger/hate.

The situation still seems ironic to me. But that analysis is dead-on.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Kind of, but I think more about the comparisons between the homegrown vs. Muslim terrorists.

I'd be interested to see your direct comparison between a group that feels threatened by their own Government and a cult that is predicated on being 'spread by the sword'.

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

When you compare the ideology of the far right homegrown terrorists and far right Muslim terrorists, their overall mindsets (violence to protect belief system) and targets (U.S. government) are similiar they just have different philosophies that fuel their anger/hate.

Violence to protect a belief system? Possibly from the imbecile Right-wingers. All islamic terrorist groups (that I've ever researched) are just following the fundementals of their book. Check out 9:29 and many verses like it.

They are not protecting their belief system, they are actively expanding it as dictated by their interpretation of religious teachings.

You could also add the metric of sheer volume. I haven't taken a recent head-count of U.S. Right-wing terror groups but I think you'll find it's substatially smaller and significantly less of a threat than that of islam.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by saden1

That explains it all...they are protecting the constitution. Let freedom reign except for the people that gotta die.

Fcking morons.

This.