Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs. 49ers) (Thread is Open)

[mredskins]

Mickey Rourke wants Rex in!

Mickey Rourke Talks Rex Grossman | Kevin McCarthy's Nerd Tearsâ„¢

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Mickey Rourke wants Rex in!

Mickey Rourke Talks Rex Grossman | Kevin McCarthy's Nerd Tearsâ„¢

Is that Mickey Rourke or Jerry Jones?

[That Guy]

rex could throw the ball past the line of scrimmage... just saying. beck's never won a game in the nfl, is past 30 and has been passed over by the ravens and the dolphins.

I have no idea why we brought him here or why anyone thought he'd be any good. this is what i expected, and i wish it was wrong, but i think it's time to fix it.

[calia]

I was as hopeful as anyone that Beck would be at least a serviceable QB, if not an upgrade over Rex. But my take after watching yesterday's performance is that what happened to Rex is weighing on Beck as he's playing like a guy who is afraid to make a mistake and therefore takes no chances at all. After not having had an opportunity (except on one of the worst teams in NFL history in the 2007 Dolphins), Beck finally gets his chance, but only after Rex throws a bunch of terrible picks. So Beck figures if he can throw high percentage, short passes, avoid the INTs, they'll be able to generate enough offense to keep him in as the starter. So he doesn't look down the field, doesn't look for crossing routes, and tries to unload the ball as quickly as possible (which, given the drubbing by the Bills, is somewhat understandable).

But the problem is that no one is afraid that he can pick anyone apart. That the 49er safties were positioned for pass plays like they were run plays says a lot. No fear that the passing game is a real threat, and it surely isn't. The real elite QBs in this league walk onto the field thinking, "I am going to light you up." Beck walks onto the field thinking, "Please don't light me up." And it shows.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by calia

I was as hopeful as anyone that Beck would be at least a serviceable QB, if not an upgrade over Rex. But my take after watching yesterday's performance is that what happened to Rex is weighing on Beck as he's playing like a guy who is afraid to make a mistake and therefore takes no chances at all. After not having had an opportunity (except on one of the worst teams in NFL history in the 2007 Dolphins), Beck finally gets his chance, but only after Rex throws a bunch of terrible picks. So Beck figures if he can throw high percentage, short passes, avoid the INTs, they'll be able to generate enough offense to keep him in as the starter. So he doesn't look down the field, doesn't look for crossing routes, and tries to unload the ball as quickly as possible (which, given the drubbing by the Bills, is somewhat understandable).

But the problem is that no one is afraid that he can pick anyone apart. That the 49er safties were positioned for pass plays like they were run plays says a lot. No fear that the passing game is a real threat, and it surely isn't. The real elite QBs in this league walk onto the field thinking, "I am going to light you up." Beck walks onto the field thinking, "Please don't light me up." And it shows.

when beck throws deep he's off target but yards. his accuracy is awful on long balls.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by That Guy

rex could throw the ball past the line of scrimmage... just saying. beck's never won a game in the nfl, is past 30 and has been passed over by the ravens and the dolphins.

I have no idea why we brought him here or why anyone thought he'd be any good. this is what i expected, and i wish it was wrong, but i think it's time to fix it.

Thats on MS bro

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Thats on MS bro

Yup. Also, I think as we look at the past 24 games, one could make a really solid argument that we should have kept Jason Campbell over the 3 qbs we've had starting since him. Not saying he was the franchise savior, but I think he certainly would have been a better 2 season band-aid than McNabb, Beck, or Grossman.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yup. Also, I think as we look at the past 24 games, one could make a really solid argument that we should have kept Jason Campbell over the 3 qbs we've had starting since him. Not saying he was the franchise savior, but I think he certainly would have been a better 2 season band-aid than McNabb, Beck, or Grossman.

Oh hellyeah absolutely. I was never a Campbell hater while he was here, and he played more consistent for us than any of the 3 qb's who have played so far under Mike Shanahan. If we had kept him we'd have a potential 2nd round pick sitting on the roster right now.

[SFREDSKIN]

It's funny how a lot of fans wanted Campbell gone and now realize he wasn't so bad. My point is, the same can be said about Kyle Shanahan, a lot of fans want him gone but in actuality you won't find someone better, people need to be patient. When the young players develop (has already started) and a QB is drafted, linemen drafted, we will see what we've been wanting to see on offense. Rome wasn't built in a day.

[mooby]

This is how I feel about John Beck.

[SmootSmack]

Had no problem with trading for McNabb, but they should have also selected a QB in the draft. Even if McNabb was successful they had to know it would be brief considering his ago.

[rypper11]

Beck is so inept that it's difficult to see how good anyone else on offense is. I know it's been said, but Rex will win games and also single handedly lose some with picks and fumbles. At least with him there is a shot and we can see some of the potential in the wr's. I know that a lot of people on here put no stock in what teammates said prior to the Rex benching (especially Moss) but I think the receivers know more than us. I honestly don't see Beck ever winning an NFL game.

[Meks]

I agree . he reads the field like a senile glaucoma patient. I honestly believe he will not win a game as a redskin, and may never get the chance to after that... Rex makes throws/attempts john Beck is not able to process fast enough. Beck dis not throw a ball past 15 yds that I can remember watching in the seats... furious. Rex wins that game against SF IMO. 5+ times open recievers downfield for possible tds bug gains and he didn't look there way and had time. missed alot of open guys un general and cracked under pressure. Rex makes the throws and SCORES the points we.needed to win that game. its a joke that our staff actually thought Beck could start in this league. sorry. not saying Rex is awesome but he's 10 times better than Beck hands effing down. disgusting feeling u get watching our high school offense being qb'd by a division 2 talent level looking lost puppy. [/PISSED] ... I want the Guy who gives this team the best chance to win and that is by FAR Rex Grossman ..

[Meks]

and I don't wanna hear about picks and fumbles... Beck threw plenty of passes that should have.been picks on throws I.honestly do NOT think Rex would.have.made. .. oh and he fumbles ...

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Whether we play beck or grossman, it doesn't really matter. Bottom line is we don't have a starting caliber quarterback. Period.