Rodgers talks about redskins organization

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

While the culture here might not have been the greatest thing for players here, 'Los has no place to talk.

Hey 'Los, if you had caught the damn ball while you were here, we would have paid you. Nobody gives out a second contract based on "potential improvement". They give them out based on past performance, even Albert Haynesworth had two great years we stupidly signed him. You didn' even do that. You were the same 'ol "pretty good" cover guy who couldn't make a big play when there were PRIME opportunities to do so.

What would you rather have your corner do. Catch Int's? Or cover and tackle? Sorry but a corners first job is to cover. Right?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What would you rather have your corner do. Catch Int's? Or cover and tackle? Sorry but a corners first job is to cover. Right?

Carlos wanted to get paid like he did both, and he didn't.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Carlos wanted to get paid like he did both, and he didn't.

Hall did.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Hall did.

Carlos could have gotten paid close to Nnamdi money if he caught INTs. I know you despise Hall and he can't do nothing right in your eyes, but this discussion doesn't need to be about Hall (because Rogers was technically replaced by Wilson). Carlos left this team with an attitude and bad-mouthed the team on his way out.

[Lotus]

I think that Los has good reasons to feel negative about his time in DC. He played pretty well as a cover corner (though not as a playmaker) and deserved to be treated better than he was over the years.

That said, he did not seem to recognize that there is a new sheriff in town and that he would be treated better under Shanallen. Instead he chose to whine, jump ship, and not make as much as he wanted. That is all his fault.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Carlos left this team with an attitude and bad-mouthed the team on his way out.

I guess my point is, rogers attitude toward this team was warranted and atleast understandable. Players want to re-new their contract when they are entering their final season of a deal so they have future security in case they get a major injury in their final season.

2009 and 2010 the skins left carlos hanging with no future security.

Id wouldnt have nice things to say either. I also was miffed at carlos for his comments mid-2010 season when he said "he didnt want to risk playing hurt and get injured for this team and put bad tape out there" . .. but i understand where he was coming from. After 2009 and then not re-signing him before 2010, the skins didnt have his back at all so should he?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

I guess my point is, rogers attitude toward this team was warranted and atleast understandable. Players want to re-new their contract when they are entering their final season of a deal so they have future security in case they get a major injury in their final season.

2009 and 2010 the skins left carlos hanging with no future security.

Id wouldnt have nice things to say either. I also was miffed at carlos for his comments mid-2010 season when he said "he didnt want to risk playing hurt and get injured for this team and put bad tape out there" . .. but i understand where he was coming from. After 2009 and then not re-signing him before 2010, the skins didnt have his back at all so should he?

Fair points. Although I find it interesting that a lot of people here are for once in agreement with the player in the situation that you just explained. Most of the time, fans seem to always side with the team on situations like this. There is always this "just shut up and play ball" attitude.

I do think we'd be in better shape in the secondary if Rogers was here. As someone said before, he and Hall complimented each other. It's just frustrating to see him go to another team and perform. Especially since if he had done that here in Washington, he'd be an elite corner.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Fair points. Although I find it interesting that a lot of people here are for once in agreement with the player in the situation that you just explained. Most of the time, fans seem to always side with the team on situations like this. There is always this "just shut up and play ball" attitude.

I do think we'd be in better shape in the secondary if Rogers was here. As someone said before, he and Hall complimented each other. It's just frustrating to see him go to another team and perform. Especially since if he had done that here in Washington, he'd be an elite corner.

Agree with that sentiment, but if you go back and read the last two pages, that's exactly what people (not otm) are saying here.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Carlos could have gotten paid close to Nnamdi money if he caught INTs. I know you despise Hall and he can't do nothing right in your eyes, but this discussion doesn't need to be about Hall (because Rogers was technically replaced by Wilson). Carlos left this team with an attitude and bad-mouthed the team on his way out.

Hall is mostly irrelevant to this discussion. It's just that his case totally dismisses the idea that Carlos "didn't do enough" here to get paid. He did, and did not get paid.

The bitterness is getting really old already, so I think it's fair to rip him for that. It's not like Jason Campbell rips the Redskins every chance he gets. But the reason that Carlos Rogers had to leave in order to get paid is not a symptom of his skill set or inconsistencies. It's a problem with the Redskins, bottom line.

Just treat him like we did Ryan Clark after he left. The decision to move on was defensible, but backfired.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hall is mostly irrelevant to this discussion. It's just that his case totally dismisses the idea that Carlos "didn't do enough" here to get paid. He did, and did not get paid.

The bitterness is getting really old already, so I think it's fair to rip him for that. It's not like Jason Campbell rips the Redskins every chance he gets. But the reason that Carlos Rogers had to leave in order to get paid is not a symptom of his skill set or inconsistencies. It's a problem with the Redskins, bottom line.

Just treat him like we did Ryan Clark after he left. The decision to move on was defensible, but backfired.

I think a lot of people would be ripping Rogers if Hall wasn't involved in this discussion at all with everything else being the same (secondary issues). In the end, the team replaced Rogers with Wilson, and sadly I don't think Wilson has fared as good as we all wanted him to.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What would you rather have your corner do. Catch Int's? Or cover and tackle? Sorry but a corners first job is to cover. Right?

Wait, I say Hall's contract was ****ing stupid and you think I'm defending Hall? The hell?

10 million dollar corners shut players down and make big plays. They are the COMPLETE package.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Wait, I say Hall's contract was ****ing stupid and you think I'm defending Hall? The hell?

10 million dollar corners shut players down and make big plays. They are the COMPLETE package.

I'm just sayin' ..you're calling out Carlos for not catching int's. Yeah he didn't catch the ball, he's not a top corner, but I'd take him over any of these bums we currently have.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm just sayin' ..you're calling out Carlos for not catching int's. Yeah he didn't catch the ball, he's not a top corner, but I'd take him over any of these bums we currently have.

It's not my fault Carlos is crying about not being "nutured"(aka PAID). Like it or not, catching picks helps a corner get paid. Coverage also gets a corner paid. But it's not about one or the other. You have to have both to be paid the big bucks.

He could have taken the signing of Hall as a challenge and played lights out. He would have gotten his wish of getting paid if did that, because that's how the NFL normally works. You perform, you get the money. End of story.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

It's not my fault Carlos is crying about not being "nutured"(aka PAID). Like it or not, catching picks helps a corner get paid. Coverage also gets a corner paid. But it's not about one or the other. You have to have both to be paid the big bucks.

He could have taken the signing of Hall as a challenge and played lights out. He would have gotten his wish of getting paid if did that, because that's how the NFL normally works. You perform, you get the money. End of story.

Well he did deserve a raise from the Redskins and didn't get it. Did he deserve to be paid 10 mil? No. But he didn't deserve to get low balled either.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well he did deserve a raise from the Redskins and didn't get it. Did he deserve to be paid 10 mil? No. But he didn't deserve to get low balled either.

The way I look at it is he got top 10 money for those years he played here and didn't deserve it. It's why they didn't reward him with a big time contract. That and his attitude.