Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Makes no sense to just cut Hall. As frustrating as he is, he is our best CB. So if anything, you see if you can trade him for anything but to just outright cut him makes no sense

Josh Wilson is our best corner, wouldn't you think? I realize that there's a difference in competition faced because the defensive coaches have been hesitant to leave Wilson on an island with the opponents top receivers, but when given the opportunity, Wilson hasn't done any worse and actually has a couple of key pass breakups.

I realize that Josh Wilson doesn't solve the cornerback situation all by himself and he isn't Carlos Rogers, but if you are going to match-up with the opponent, he's the best cover guy on the roster, correct?

I'm actually excited to see more of Byron Westbrook on defense. I know he's made his mark on special teams, but he's a surprisingly good cover guy in limited reps. And he tackles well. I'm not expecting him to be the next Champ Bailey, but Westbrook has earned his reps.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Makes no sense to just cut Hall. As frustrating as he is, he is our best CB. So if anything, you see if you can trade him for anything but to just outright cut him makes no sense

Honestly, I don't think he's any better at covering then Brian Westbrook. He just has a bigger contract.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Honestly, I don't think he's any better at covering then Brian Westbrook. He just has a bigger contract.

There is no way you're serious lol..

If Westbrook was that good then he would be starting over Wilson too. Hall does a solid job in covering. He doesn't shut down the big time WR's for a whole game like some elite CB's do, but I never expect him too..

Dez Bryant burned Revis and both of the Eagles CB's this year too.. Just saying, that Dez is a monster and covering him for a long amount of time is a miracle.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Makes no sense to just cut Hall. As frustrating as he is, he is our best CB. So if anything, you see if you can trade him for anything but to just outright cut him makes no sense

This.


I've been a notorious Hall hatter, and even thought he was garbage even before his days in Oakland. He had been overrated by fans/media on his INTs instead of his actual play. That said, we really can't just cut him unless we find a better option, and chances are it's going to come through the draft. Now, is CB a bigger priority than a QB or OL? Absolutely not.

I will say something positive about D. Hall. One thing that separates him from say a Haynesworth/Portis is the guy does give it his 100%. I can't say I've seen D. Hall quit on a play or give a half ass effort. For all his faults and big mouth, the guy gives it his all on the field. That much he can be applauded for.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This.


I've been a notorious Hall hatter, and even thought he was garbage even before his days in Oakland. He had been overrated by fans/media on his INTs instead of his actual play. That said, we really can't just cut him unless we find a better option, and chances are it's going to come through the draft. Now, is CB a bigger priority than a QB or OL? Absolutely not.

I will say something positive about D. Hall. One thing that separates him from say a Haynesworth/Portis is the guy does give it his 100%. I can't say I've seen D. Hall quit on a play or give a half ass effort. For all his faults and big mouth, the guy gives it his all on the field. That much he can be applauded for.

and thats why i feel there are so many apoligist for d hall, my self included. it drives me insane the amount of s he talks but thats just who he is (ever been to norfolk), but the one thing d hall does is give his all, unfortunatly his all isn't all that great. but at the end of the day how pissed can you be at a guy who gives it everything he has.

[over the mountain]

im still sticking with that whole "a pressure creating front 7 means we dont need elite cornerbacks" mantra.

im not a huge fan of d hall or josh wilson but i dont think we have the luxury of expending draft or substantial FA money at the cornerback position.

hall, wilson and barnes are servicable and liveable imo for 2012. i would have loved to have not given hall all that money but the ink has long since dried on that contract.

i wouldnt mind offering a kinda young undervalued FA corner a 3 yr 10 mil type contract or using a 4th to 7th rounder on one but cb isnt a big need right now and to upgrade it would be a luxury i dont think we can afford right now

1st round - QB
2nd - OL, LB, WR, DL in that order
3rd - OL, LB, WR, DL

going into 2013, upgrading the corner position will be a top priority along with adding another playmaking offense weapon.

[Stacks42]

What about Carlos Rogers? Isnt he a free agent?

[Bucket]

I would take Hall over Smoot.. Smoot went downhill before Minnesota.. He had one solid year in 04

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I would take Hall over Smoot.. Smoot went downhill before Minnesota.. He had one solid year in 04

Can Hall bowl like Smoot?

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[MTK]

Complaining about the kicker kinda feels like complaining about the refs to me.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Complaining about the kicker kinda feels like complaining about the refs to me.

They suck too.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Complaining about the kicker kinda feels like complaining about the refs to me.

I dont think so at all. I was just looking up Gano's stats. He is a career 69% kicker. That is dead last in the NFL over the last 3 years. The closest to him is 73%. We can't find a kicker that would be in the top 20 - 25 in the NFL. THey are around 80%. He is directly affecting outcomes of close games. This one we should have won, the game in Dallas he cost us as well missing a field goal. That is two games that if he makes kicks we are 5-5 vs 3-7.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Complaining about the kicker kinda feels like complaining about the refs to me.

Can't even compare the two cause the kicker either makes it or he doesn't. If you saw the replay of the Robinson TD Orakpo was held and was almost horse collared but they didn't call it.

[MTK]

Or maybe if we could just score more TDs rather than having to rely on a 52 yarder to win...