I am a horrible, rotten excuse for a Redskins fan.

[WilbursHomie]

Mark it 8 dude

[skins89moss]

I never want the Redskins to lose a game. I however understand that our problem has been the QB positon for many years. I truly want us to draft a QB in the 1st round and groom him to be our guy for many years. But if Shanny and Bruce do draft a QB in the 1st round you fair weather fans most understand that Mike needs to bee here to see this thing through. Part of our losing is due to every 2-3 years changing coaches and QB's this has to stop or expect the losing to continue. So I want us to go out and try to win and if we come up short while playing our youngs guys then I can handle the losing to get in postion to slect a QB like Robert Griffin III.

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

I never want the Redskins to lose a game. I however understand that our problem has been the QB positon for many years. I truly want us to draft a QB in the 1st round and groom him to be our guy for many years. But if Shanny and Bruce do draft a QB in the 1st round you fair weather fans most understand that Mike needs to bee here to see this thing through. Part of our losing is due to every 2-3 years changing coaches and QB's this has to stop or expect the losing to continue. So I want us to go out and try to win and if we come up short while playing our youngs guys then I can handle the losing to get in postion to slect a QB like Robert Griffin III.

I understand your position, I really do. I hate seeing the Skins lose any games, when they are competing for a playoff spot or even just a winning record. However this season neither of those things is going to happen(obviously the playoffs are long gone and we would have to win out to finish with a winning record(neither of those things are happening).

So lose a few extra games this year and draft our starting QB for the next 10 years or go into another season with a re-tread QB or a low round pick? Remember it now seems like barkley and even jones might be going back for the final year

[SKINSnCANES]

I dont know if anyone said this yet, I didnt read through the entire thread, but....

Im not sure we have a lot of say or choice in losing most of our final games. We have a really hard schedule.

[GusFrerotte]

There are too many top notch caliber Qbs in this draft to want to "Suck for Luck". Luck is very good, but might not be the best fit for us or he may even not make the transitiion to the NFl very well. A guy we have left out of the equation is Brandon Weeden from OSU. He is 6'4" 215 lbs and can gun the thing down the field. Sure it helps he had the next stud WR as his main target, but he still is a fine QB. Of course you have Luck, Barkely, RG III, and some lesser QBs, that at least will give you a decent backup.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I can't believe that we beat the Seahawks. I was routing against the Redskins with everything I had. We have a chance to get a great QB like Mat Barkley and we blow it. I am a season ticket holder, I have seats in the lower level 9th row, on th 5 yard line. I will give them up if they dont get an aceptable Quarterback. I just cant watch this crap anymore. The article in the examiner summed it up best. The Redskins are turning a lost season into a lost draft, by winning.

What Examiner article was this?

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What Examiner article was this?

Rick Snider: Winning now all the rage for Redskins | Rick Snider | NFL | Washington Examiner

It is the right link.

"

After a decent effort in the 27-24 overtime loss to Dallas and a middling victory over Seattle, is Washington finally turning a lost season into a lost draft? Each win further distances the Redskins from getting a franchise quarterback. Or is it merely that teams always have a chance in the NFL and Washington simply outlasted another bad team?"

[MTK]

You play to win the game. Nuff said.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You play to win the game. Nuff said.

Some people just don't get this. I hope we win out and then let the chips fall where they may in the draft.

Jesus. what a bunch of loser fans. This thread is aptly titled.

Just so we are clear, I am a diehard fan, I know we suck, and I know we need a QB to build on. None of this changes my hope that they win every game they play. The draft is a crap shoot - you don't lose just to get a better seat at the table of randomness.

[CultBrennan59]

Very true Matty, but TOKilla is one of many skins fans that are pissed, like me, over a dying team. The skins this year remind me of a fish being caught during fishing. The fisherman catchs it, it seems like it could be a promising fish at first glance, he thinks he's having a big dinner off this fish (first 4 games this year), then he gets it in and its just a small fish (the past 6 games) he wants to throw it away so he can get a better fish (Barkley, Griffin, Luck) but decides to be greedy and keep it incase he wants to save it for just himself and not his family (beating seattle).


Yes I just compared the Redskins season to fishing.

But really this site is going to have a major following of die hard skins fans I respect that, but the majority of skins fans in the rest of society know we aren't good and know we need to get a great QB to win, and have had it up to here with losing all the time.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Very true Matty, but TOKilla is one of many skins fans that are pissed, like me, over a dying team. The skins this year remind me of a fish being caught during fishing. The fisherman catchs it, it seems like it could be a promising fish at first glance, he thinks he's having a big dinner off this fish (first 4 games this year), then he gets it in and its just a small fish (the past 6 games) he wants to throw it away so he can get a better fish (Barkley, Griffin, Luck) but decides to be greedy and keep it incase he wants to save it for just himself and not his family (beating seattle).


Yes I just compared the Redskins season to fishing.

But really this site is going to have a major following of die hard skins fans I respect that, but the majority of skins fans in the rest of society know we aren't good and know we need to get a great QB to win, and have had it up to here with losing all the time.

If Shanahan doesn't get the QB he wants next offseason, that's all on him and not because we won late in the season. You all act like just picking up one of these guys will cure everything, yet we have no idea what QB Mike Shanahan wants. After the McNabb fiasco, I want to make sure that Shanahan gets the QB he wants, and it won't be easy.

I would rather give up a few picks and get the QB that Shanahan wants, rather than tank the rest of the season. What's the point of getting young guys playing time if they are going to lose? I would rather finish out strong, have our young guys develop a winning attitude and come back stronger next offseason.

In the end, there will be a way for our team to get a franchise quarterback and you have to trust the front office to do that next offseason. But please everyone shut the f*ck up with this "we need to lose sh*t". If that is your attitude, go be a f*cking Cowpuke fan and get the hell off this board.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If Shanahan doesn't get the QB he wants next offseason, that's all on him and not because we won late in the season. You all act like just picking up one of these guys will cure everything, yet we have no idea what QB Mike Shanahan wants. After the McNabb fiasco, I want to make sure that Shanahan gets the QB he wants, and it won't be easy.

I would rather give up a few picks and get the QB that Shanahan wants, rather than tank the rest of the season. What's the point of getting young guys playing time if they are going to lose? I would rather finish out strong, have our young guys develop a winning attitude and come back stronger next offseason.

In the end, there will be a way for our team to get a franchise quarterback and you have to trust the front office to do that next offseason. But please everyone shut the f*ck up with this "we need to lose sh*t". If that is your attitude, go be a f*cking Cowpuke fan and get the hell off this board.

And that's the attitude I'm referring to folks. You need wake up call as to where your team is bud.

[skinsguy]

If you think tanking a season will land you a franchise QB for years to come, let me introduce you to Heath Shuler.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

And that's the attitude I'm referring to folks. You need wake up call as to where your team is bud.

Tanking and losing is not the only way to get a franchise QB. But please, go to Ashburn and tell these guys that they need to lose and see the reaction that you get.

I swear some fans can be so narrow-minded.

[NC_Skins]

Ok, so what if the team loses and gets that #2 pick and selects their "franchise QB"?

What happens if the players you were expecting to come out do not come out and you openly root the team to lose for nothing?


What happens in 5 years if said "franchise QB" ends up a bust? Do you continue hoping your team loses to get another chance at a "franchise QB"?


What happens after you get your "franchise QB"? Do you hope they lose so you can get a "franchise WR" the following year? You know, you'll have to be in the top 5 again to get a calibur guy like AJ Green or Calvin Johson.

Fan's guide to building the Washington Redskins.

2011: Tank season for "Franchise QB" in 2012.
2012: Tank season for "Franchise WR" in 2013.
2013: Tank season for "Franchise MLB" in 2014.
2014: Tank season for "Franchise Safety" in 2015.
2015: Tank season for "Franchise DL" in 2016.

Yup, we are well on our way to being competitive with this formula!!!


To openly hope your team loses to better your shot at a chance on a player that you don't even know is going to be in the draft is beyond ludicrous. It's pathetic.